The Ottomans

[Artashes]

Re: The Ottomans

Although the Ottomans brought disaster to Armenia we can also learn from them

What Ottoman policy decisions enabled them to become a superpower?

What Armenian policy decisions resulted in Armenia losing its position as the prominent entity in central and eastern Anatolia ?

There is nothing about the autojerk to emulate. --- nothing ---.
They were a nomad murdering and thieving group. Opportunistic thieves who used murder and torture and fear.
Autojerk policy ? The lowlife scum didn't have a ?policy? If you are talking about their using fear via murder and torture, then there is nothing to learn. If your talking about invading multitudes of countries and commiting murder and torture to take the wealth of the invaded countries, again that's not a ?policy?, but a criminal act committed against --- ALL --- they invaded. Not something to learn or emulate.
If your are talking about the willingness of Europe or anyone else to deal with the murdering thieves and access all the stolen wealth for --- their benifit --- birds of a feather as bothe are conniving for their sole benifit no matter the demise of their nieghbor. Nothing to emulate by either.
Yes, Armenia had faults. But to take that out of context and ignore the continuous assaults Armenia has suffered over the last 3,000 years (at least) is a narrow view at best.
Al Capone was an infamous gangster who murdered freely and become very wealthy. What ? You want to study his policy too ???
The autojerk became wealthy and successful by murder and theft of all the surrounding people's and found willing business partners in the likes of Europe , etc to share in the stolen wealth.
That's a case study for psychiatry, not something to glean an honest viable working model for a nations conduct.

[lampron]

Re: The Ottomans

Although the Ottomans brought disaster to Armenia we can also learn from them

What Ottoman policy decisions enabled them to become a superpower?

What Armenian policy decisions resulted in Armenia losing its position as the prominent entity in central and eastern Anatolia ?

[Eddo211]

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No, I will call bullsh!t as it is, debunking everything again is borring......whats interesting is WHY you get so worked up over it, you like the Ottomans?

[TomServo]

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I told you why

I don't mind.....you can say what you want but why you complain when you get a response?
This thread Yawn.....Ottoman s are the Turks.

If you don't like this thread then cease posting instead of acting as though the conversation is beneath you.

But having read your "bullshyt-calling outs," I must admit that they do indeed elicit many yawns (and groans).

[Eddo211]

Re: The Ottomans

You were still posting in this thread that you find so tedious and have a history of doing so.

I told you why

Don't like that I pointed that out? Too bad.

I don't mind.....you can say what you want but why you complain when you get a response?
This thread Yawn.....Ottoman s are the Turks.

[TomServo]

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You were still posting in this thread that you find so tedious and have a history of doing so.

Don't like that I pointed that out? Too bad.

[Eddo211]

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I was not contributing......I was calling bullsh1t out.


you seem to like to beat a dead horse....don't like what I say? too bad.

[TomServo]

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Back from the dead the Ottoman thread.....yawn.

Nobody is forcing you to post and yet prior to its revival you were the most recent contributor.

[Eddo211]

Re: The Ottomans

Back from the dead the Ottoman thread.....yawn.

[TomServo]

Re: The Ottomans

In the Ottoman empire and Russian empire the Turks and Tatars were usually suspicious of foreigners but they trusted each other. The Armenians were the opposite

Didn't trust each other enough to oversee the empire. That's what minorities and the Janissaries were for.