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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Hakob View Post
    Գեներալ-լեյտենանտ Մովսես Հակոբյանը նշանակվել է պաշտպանության փոխնախարար։ Սերժ Սարգսյանը, հիմք ընդունելով Հայաստանի Հանրապետության Նախագահի 2007 թվականի հուլիսի 18-ի ՆՀ-174-Ն հրամանագրով սահմանված՝ Հայաստանի Հանրապետության կառավարության եւ նրան ենթակա պետական կառավարման այլ մարմինների գործունեության կազմակերպման կարգի 125-րդ կետը, որոշում է կայացրել Մովսես Հակոբյանին նշանակել Հայաստանի Հանրապետության պաշտպանության նախարարի տեղակալ-պաշտպանության նախարարության նյութատեխնիկական ապահովման դեպատամենտի պետ:

    Մեկ այլ հրամանագրով հակոբյանն ազատվել է Հայաստանի Հանրապետության զինված ուժերի գլխավոր շտաբի պետի տեղակալի պաշտոնից:

    Լուրեր Հայաստանից - NEWS.am


    I think something very bad was caught in ministry, especially in supply dept. so after removal of the chief there Movses Hagopian is appointed as deputy Defence minister in charge of supply dept.
    An old guard is appointed that has a proven record. Maybe also this is in light of necessary import of armaments?
    David Donoyan was sacked?

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by armnuke View Post
      Baron Haykakan's logic:
      Diasporans are just there to send money to Armenia, sing and dance on Armenian songs in some overseas country, preach about how Armenian they are while grilling their kebab, and at most probably fight in Artsakh as volunteers.
      BUT NEVER GIVE THEM NATIONALITY/VOTING RIGHT just because he fears diasporans would vote for a pro-west (assuming) government which might threaten a dummy project like the Eurasian Union.
      You are an outright egoist my friend.



      Excuse my ignorance, but what's the difference between a diasporan and a local?
      Do you really think all locals are FOR EEU and diasporans are against it? Come on man..you're too smart of a man to think like that.
      Thing is you go into panic mode so quickly...

      Diasporian speaking English...NATO has inflitrated Armeniaaaaaaaa
      The only people who should be voting on laws are the ones who will have to live by them. This is common sense logic over which many wars have been fought. You can post all the sarcastic pics you like but the most sarcastic thing in you posts continues to be your argument.
      Hayastan or Bust.

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
        The only people who should be voting on laws are the ones who will have to live by them. This is common sense logic over which many wars have been fought. You can post all the sarcastic pics you like but the most sarcastic thing in you posts continues to be your argument.
        You are right.

        First the ruling elite run the country so badly .... enriching themselves ...

        In desperation the people leave the country en mass.

        Then the elite says we can change and do what we like here because you are not here. ....

        ... By the way learn the language and adapt yourself in your new country you are living in ....

        .... AND make sure your kids talk the local language as if they are local so they will be successful .....

        .
        Last edited by londontsi; 05-20-2016, 10:58 AM.
        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
          The only people who should be voting on laws are the ones who will have to live by them. This is common sense logic over which many wars have been fought. You can post all the sarcastic pics you like but the most sarcastic thing in you posts continues to be your argument.
          You keep contradicting yourself, it's becoming a joke.
          You said diasporans should not have voting right. Cool.
          Then you said the only ones who should be voting on laws are the ones who will have to live by them. Huh?

          Let's be clear here. According to you, a fellow Armenian should not be given Armenian nationality (which is a God given right) because it's more important for Armenia to 'safely' stay in something like the EEU.

          Someone would only say this if:
          a) They're paid by Russia to promote their agenda
          b) Is Russian

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by Hakob View Post
            something very bad was caught in ministry,

            I wish this was true ... “something very bad was caught in ministry”

            Nothing was caught. The lorry run into a wall and then they realised things were not good.

            I remember sometime back when some civil society activists wanted the ministry of defence audited.

            On this forum the idea was ridiculed. I had supported the idea. Obviously it was never taken up by the ruling bodies.

            When its realised something is wrong after a mishap the reason is very simple. Its called bad management.

            .
            Last edited by londontsi; 05-20-2016, 11:42 AM.
            Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
            Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
            Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
              That is why I am against diasporans having voting rights in Armenia. I completely understand that situation. What you seem to not understand is that there is big potential in things like EEU. Due to globalization, world markets have become linked and those controlling lets say the USA economy can control the world economy since due to globalization these economies are linked and move together. We saw this in the great recession we just experienced. Many nations want to form unions now to protect themselves from such manipulations and the EEU is just one of those examples. In theory the EEU is a great idea but only time will tell if it works in practice. The problem for Armenia is lack of borders with EEU countries although it seems Armenia has found a way around this issue.
              Do you consider that the fact why many Armenians left Armenia is because they disagree with how the country was ruled ?
              They left BECAUSE of all the bad things. That doesn't make them more or less Armenian than you. They should be able to have something to say because Armenia is still their country.
              No doubt if Armenia did great economically many would come back.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Hakob View Post
                Good news!
                Members of CSTO agreed for mutual use of Russian GLONASS navigation system.
                This system is the equivalent of American GPS that NATO uses.
                In a short time after implementation I expect our fire controll and surveillance systems to become very accurate to modern standards.
                I think maybe we were allready using Gps or even GLONASS navigation systems, but if not in agreement, those can be turned off and blind an area any time.
                What is your thoughts people?
                Good news indeed. Not sure how many of our equipment is GPS enabled, but everything should be like target finders. There is another system coming online...completely open to EVERYONE.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galile...te_navigation)

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by haydavid View Post
                  Do you consider that the fact why many Armenians left Armenia is because they disagree with how the country was ruled ?
                  They left BECAUSE of all the bad things. That doesn't make them more or less Armenian than you. They should be able to have something to say because Armenia is still their country.
                  No doubt if Armenia did great economically many would come back.
                  Nothing you say here has anything to do with the fact that only those who have to live with the laws should be allowed to vote on them. If the diasporans pass bad laws and make things worst they will not have to live with the consequences but those in Armenia do. The fallacy that many of you seem to be running into is the assumption that if diasporans were allowed to vote then good laws would be passed and things would be better... This is a fallacy, it is a false assumption with no legitimate argument. If diasporans were allowed to vote lets say Raffi won the last election. How would things be better? Raffi is a CIA spook who would simply replace overlords and nothing more. He had zero plans to make anything better and all he kept saying was change. That is exactly what happened in Ukraine. Go ask them how happy they are now. Replacing one corrupt system with another is stupid especially when you realize how costly it is.
                  Hayastan or Bust.

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by Hakob View Post
                    Good news!
                    Members of CSTO agreed for mutual use of Russian GLONASS navigation system.
                    This system is the equivalent of American GPS that NATO uses.
                    In a short time after implementation I expect our fire controll and surveillance systems to become very accurate to modern standards.
                    I think maybe we were allready using Gps or even GLONASS navigation systems, but if not in agreement, those can be turned off and blind an area any time.
                    What is your thoughts people?
                    I remember many years ago I was involved in a system which used GPS.
                    GPS was the only system available at the time.

                    In those days GPS was deliberately configured to give inaccurate reading for safety reasons, only the military had the very accurate service.

                    In order to overcome this situation the said system firstly established the coordinates of the current location using GPS and then considering the error factor rebroadcast the correct data for receivers to display as usable data.

                    A system of this nature would not be practical in a global context but very doable and useful for a small territory such as Armenia.
                    Maybe our boffins can come up with something like this as a redundancy as well as not being dependent on third party entities.

                    .
                    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                      I remember many years ago I was involved in a system which used GPS.
                      GPS was the only system available at the time.

                      In those days GPS was deliberately configured to give inaccurate reading for safety reasons, only the military had the very accurate service.

                      In order to overcome this situation the said system firstly established the coordinates of the current location using GPS and then considering the error factor rebroadcast the correct data for receivers to display as usable data.

                      A system of this nature would not be practical in a global context but very doable and useful for a small territory such as Armenia.
                      Maybe our boffins can come up with something like this as a redundancy as well as not being dependent on third party entities.

                      .
                      Yes I remember the built in error system as well. It did result in some frustrating errors when working around congested areas. Having our own system would involve making/buying our own satellites and launching them. I think the opportunity cost here is too high. Most of our weapons are not satellite guided anyways.
                      Hayastan or Bust.

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