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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by burjuin View Post
    How many Azerbaijiani drones have we taken out, and how many are left for us to take out, we seemed to have demolished half of their drone fleet.

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      Talking about fifth columnists this is an interesting follow up.

      I cant help by associate some of the techniques described here how they suspiciously apply to us .... listen to the end


      PS I am only referring to techniques and not any country !!!
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      Last edited by londontsi; 06-12-2016, 05:34 AM.
      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41KxZn9wph8

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        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by armnuke View Post
          Oh come on man..you spoke highly of the 'ruling elite' when they ditched the trade agreement with the EU and made us join the Russian-led Eurasian Union. It took you just one meeting with the EU ambassador in Armenia to end your love fest?
          No. I stated clearly that there was no "lovefest" to begin with as this system of government is critically flawed to begin with. I have said this from day one. My tolerance of this government is reaching its limits because it has not effectively addressed the domestic situation. I have seen numerous opportunities go to waist because of lack of imagination and unprofessionalism. The government has demonstrated its inability to establish law and order which would have brought some sense of fairness. While I see the small amount of lands lost during the April war as insignificant, it does point to a weakness in security which is one of the main things that justifies the existence of this or any other government. I see this government becoming more reactive rather than proactive in every aspect. The other main issue is that the government was making some progress with slowing the depopulation of Armenia but that has also changed for the worst drastically. Even the influx of Syrian refugees has not prevented a population decline. The failure to provide security and to create a sense of hope and possibility of prosperity for its people are some of the basic responcibilities of government and ours has failed at both. Granted much of the failures are byproducts at least to some extent of outside events and forces but the government has always been caught flatfooted in each and every case! If the Kazakh president boycotts Armenia hosting the EEU meeting then why not return the favor? If the Azeris took lands, why not shell the living crap out of them? International relations and the provision of security were the strengths of this government (despite what many people here said) but I am seeing nothing but failures now. I waited a couple of months to see how the government would react to the April war and other pressing issues and there was nothing. A few kasharakers were done away with but that changes nothing. No responses military nor diplomatic. If there is some kind of undercover agreement or settlement it seems to involve consessions only from our side. Ok so lets say Serj is playing both sides to get a better deal...this actually worked for a while but changing your mind about major issues in a heartbeat over and over again does not give the public any sense of continuity and stability. It also implies that this government is unreliable to deal with thus working with it is a waste of time and effort. These failures reverberate throughout society as you can see it on the faces of ordinary citizens. I was not ready to call the April war a military defeat because I was expecting either a major retaliation or some kind of a lasting agreement in our favor regarding kharabagh to result from it. Instead we got nothing but dead soldiers and civilians. Failure is everywhere from security to things like FFA. The thug who runs the FFA has destroyed soccer in Armenia with his unprofessionalism and hetamnats thugery. We lost a great opportunity to do some special things with this generation of talented players and now we are in a rebuilding mode simply because this thug just alienates people who want to play for their country.
          The thing is that this government has had many opportunities to make the much needed changes that were badly needed but all it has done is hallway measures and mostly nothing. I do not care if Armenia is a Democracy, Monarchy, Dictatorship, whatever.. what I do care about is that she and her people are prospering and growing. If a coup brings us this hope then so be it but as I stated earlier there is inherent risk of it being hijacked by powerful outside forces.
          Armnnuke is right that dept should be analyzed in relation to GDP but there is more to it then that. Thanks to globalization the same forces that control o lets say the USA economy also control the global economy. While GDP/dept ratio may seem good at one point, we have seen how GDP across the board can be reduces in a huge way via manipulation of economy via things like the manufacturing of an economic crises. Sure GDP/dept looks good at some point but that can change quickly as GDP can nose dive like it did in the financial crises, while debt only gets bigger as interest accumulates. Running a large debt puts the country at risk even if its dept/gdp looks good. This is a major way in which bankers take over countries and this is exactly what happened to England after it won the war against Napoleon. It won the war but lost its sovereignty as everything was handed to bankers because it could not pay its war dept.
          Hayastan or Bust.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
              No. I stated clearly that there was no "lovefest" to begin with as this system of government is critically flawed to begin with. I have said this from day one. My tolerance of this government is reaching its limits because it has not effectively addressed the domestic situation. I have seen numerous opportunities go to waist because of lack of imagination and unprofessionalism. The government has demonstrated its inability to establish law and order which would have brought some sense of fairness. While I see the small amount of lands lost during the April war as insignificant, it does point to a weakness in security which is one of the main things that justifies the existence of this or any other government. I see this government becoming more reactive rather than proactive in every aspect. The other main issue is that the government was making some progress with slowing the depopulation of Armenia but that has also changed for the worst drastically. Even the influx of Syrian refugees has not prevented a population decline. The failure to provide security and to create a sense of hope and possibility of prosperity for its people are some of the basic responcibilities of government and ours has failed at both. Granted much of the failures are byproducts at least to some extent of outside events and forces but the government has always been caught flatfooted in each and every case! If the Kazakh president boycotts Armenia hosting the EEU meeting then why not return the favor? If the Azeris took lands, why not shell the living crap out of them? International relations and the provision of security were the strengths of this government (despite what many people here said) but I am seeing nothing but failures now. I waited a couple of months to see how the government would react to the April war and other pressing issues and there was nothing. A few kasharakers were done away with but that changes nothing. No responses military nor diplomatic. If there is some kind of undercover agreement or settlement it seems to involve consessions only from our side. Ok so lets say Serj is playing both sides to get a better deal...this actually worked for a while but changing your mind about major issues in a heartbeat over and over again does not give the public any sense of continuity and stability. It also implies that this government is unreliable to deal with thus working with it is a waste of time and effort. These failures reverberate throughout society as you can see it on the faces of ordinary citizens. I was not ready to call the April war a military defeat because I was expecting either a major retaliation or some kind of a lasting agreement in our favor regarding kharabagh to result from it. Instead we got nothing but dead soldiers and civilians. Failure is everywhere from security to things like FFA. The thug who runs the FFA has destroyed soccer in Armenia with his unprofessionalism and hetamnats thugery. We lost a great opportunity to do some special things with this generation of talented players and now we are in a rebuilding mode simply because this thug just alienates people who want to play for their country.
              The thing is that this government has had many opportunities to make the much needed changes that were badly needed but all it has done is hallway measures and mostly nothing. I do not care if Armenia is a Democracy, Monarchy, Dictatorship, whatever.. what I do care about is that she and her people are prospering and growing. If a coup brings us this hope then so be it but as I stated earlier there is inherent risk of it being hijacked by powerful outside forces.
              Armnnuke is right that dept should be analyzed in relation to GDP but there is more to it then that. Thanks to globalization the same forces that control o lets say the USA economy also control the global economy. While GDP/dept ratio may seem good at one point, we have seen how GDP across the board can be reduces in a huge way via manipulation of economy via things like the manufacturing of an economic crises. Sure GDP/dept looks good at some point but that can change quickly as GDP can nose dive like it did in the financial crises, while debt only gets bigger as interest accumulates. Running a large debt puts the country at risk even if its dept/gdp looks good. This is a major way in which bankers take over countries and this is exactly what happened to England after it won the war against Napoleon. It won the war but lost its sovereignty as everything was handed to bankers because it could not pay its war dept.
              Verchapes. You're making sense! This government is a continuation of Soviet/Russian colonization. It shows no effort in having independence, it shows no sign of nation building (where is our export bank? Our development bank? Why haven't we established a strong stock exchange and built a nation savings bank? Why are we not actively trying to secure free trade / visa free travel everywhere? Where the xxxx is our national airline???). They're short sighted Soviet relics that need to be replaced with new kids, from inside Armenia and the diaspora. Why not grant dual citizenship to Armenians abroad and have them work in consulates as part time volunteers? We could have a consulate in every corner of this planet and punch well beyond our weight in terms of global affairs.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by armnuke View Post
                Hakop, debt is measured by comparing it to GDP. It should be somewhere between 40 to 60 percent of GDP. That's healthy. Anything over 60% is alarming. Countries like Greece and Lebanon have a debt to GDP ratio of above 100%.
                Armenia also has the added benefit of still being able to grow. If we double our GDP those figures as terms of percentages fall drastically. I'm kind of hoping the IT sectors boom reaches a billion and Spurs healthcare and tourism industries.

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                  I don't like the rhetoric of this video. Like it or not, NATO is not our enemy, but Russia's enemy. Turkey is our enemy, but the video keeps repeating that these forces are in Armenia to counter NATO.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by HyeSocialist View Post
                      Armenia also has the added benefit of still being able to grow. If we double our GDP those figures as terms of percentages fall drastically. I'm kind of hoping the IT sectors boom reaches a billion and Spurs healthcare and tourism industries.
                      Agree with you. Healthcare is an important sector that we should be promoting as the IT sector. Promoting the country for comfortable retirement will bring in billions if we build proper healthcare facilities from nursing homes to assistant living.

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