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      Can Azerbaijan strike in Yerevan from Nakhichevan?
      And where does it lead

      This week in Azerbaijan with great information support opened a new military base in Nakhichevan. The event was attended by President Ilham Aliyev, for which there is held a small demonstration of military equipment. Among other things, it demonstrated the heavy launcher multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) T-300 Kasirga. These systems, which are a licensed copy of the Chinese MLRS WS-1B, were purchased in Turkey. In connection with this news Azerbaijani media have been actively promoting the idea that in Armenia "is panic," because now Baku has the ability to strike at the capital of Armenia. So this scenario can lead if it really is and what the consequences?
      "Smerch" and Kasirga ętake out" to Yerevan, but will be under retaliatory fire
      In Nakhichevan is currently at least one battalion of MLRS "Smerch" (maximum firing range of 90 km), and some of the T-300 MLRS Kasirga (maximum distance of 100-120 km depending on the rocket). These features really allow fire in Yerevan. However, for this you need to be about 20-25 km from the border with Armenia. Taking into account that Armenia has a commanding heights in this area (especially after more than two years ago the Armenian special forces was occupied neutral zone ), where "at a glance" is visible most of the Nakhichevan launchers enemy can quickly be under retaliation Armenian artillery. For this task perfectly suited to the existing "Hyacinth-B" service with a 152-mm cannon armed forces of Armenia (maximum firing range of 30 km) and the 130-mm gun M-46 (the maximum firing range of 27 km). The main task for the Armenian troops will be high-quality and quick intelligence positions MLRS enemy. For this purpose can be used drones and overview camera with a large zoom (available on devices with approximately 80-100 fold increase in positions of Armenian Armed Forces).
      Is it a blow to Yerevan quickly lost expensive MLRS - the big question. Especially considering the fact that this attack is of little military significance.


      Naturally, the war is always working normally, "a tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye", so the impact on Yerevan necessarily lead to a strike already on the Azerbaijani capital - Baku. Armenia has these means - to the task cope operational-tactical missile complexes "Iskander" and P-17 "Elbrus". While in Yerevan, some key objectives there is little, then Baku is replete with them - there is the country's only oil terminal (pumping oil export pipelines), close to there own field, etc. Why Azerbaijan needs such risks for the sake of a few tens or hundreds of dead civilians Yerevan - it is unclear.
      Another risk associated with the external factor - a direct attack on the territory of Armenia, and even in the capital, is the real reason for the start of the military operation forces the joint group of forces of Armenia and Russia. Fighting with Russia in Baku unlikely dream, knowing where it will lead very soon.

      As we have said, the commanding heights on the border controlled by the Armenian army. The very same Nakhichevan initially has obvious logistical problems, not possessing the land connection with the rest of Azerbaijan. To carry out the supply of aviation troops - a difficult and costly. In addition, according to rumors, the airspace of Nakhchivan is fully controlled by Turkey, which itself is hardly wish fights on its borders (Ankara clearly enough abominable results in fights for the Syrian Al-Bab and the civil war with the Kurds on their territory).

      In such circumstances, to go to war in this area is simply insane, as this will allow the Armenian side to carry out the offensive with the prospect of encirclement Azerbaijani 5th Army Corps, and, accordingly, its complete defeat in Nakhichevan. To hope to help Turkey and contracts will be hard with it, because in such a scenario "start trouble" Baku itself.
      As a result, Baku has the ability to strike in Yerevan (and it has already been a few years), but the possibility of giving this blow soon Armenia. Whether it will take advantage of Yerevan - it is another question.


      https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2226796.html

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        Originally posted by armnuke View Post
        When was this picture taken, our guys rarely wear this much gear, they must be heading to tavush judging by the mountain gear behind.

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          Originally posted by Spetsnaz View Post
          Here is a bit of Activity.

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            As much as I like this Dirqerum videos , sometimes Arshak makes it so awkard ^^
            Last edited by haydavid; 01-15-2017, 10:56 AM.

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              Originally posted by harutyun View Post
              Hi guys,

              I'm new to this forum as member, but not as guest (threading this topic for couple of years). And here is my first post. Following article looks to me very interesting and promising.
              ԹՈՒՄՈ-ն կկրթի ժամեկտային զինծառայողներին
              http://www.civilnet.am/news/2017/01/...B%D5%B6/306710
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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by armnuke View Post
                Can Azerbaijan strike in Yerevan from Nakhichevan?
                And where does it lead

                This week in Azerbaijan with great information support opened a new military base in Nakhichevan. The event was attended by President Ilham Aliyev, for which there is held a small demonstration of military equipment. Among other things, it demonstrated the heavy launcher multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) T-300 Kasirga. These systems, which are a licensed copy of the Chinese MLRS WS-1B, were purchased in Turkey. In connection with this news Azerbaijani media have been actively promoting the idea that in Armenia "is panic," because now Baku has the ability to strike at the capital of Armenia. So this scenario can lead if it really is and what the consequences?
                "Smerch" and Kasirga ętake out" to Yerevan, but will be under retaliatory fire
                In Nakhichevan is currently at least one battalion of MLRS "Smerch" (maximum firing range of 90 km), and some of the T-300 MLRS Kasirga (maximum distance of 100-120 km depending on the rocket). These features really allow fire in Yerevan. However, for this you need to be about 20-25 km from the border with Armenia. Taking into account that Armenia has a commanding heights in this area (especially after more than two years ago the Armenian special forces was occupied neutral zone ), where "at a glance" is visible most of the Nakhichevan launchers enemy can quickly be under retaliation Armenian artillery. For this task perfectly suited to the existing "Hyacinth-B" service with a 152-mm cannon armed forces of Armenia (maximum firing range of 30 km) and the 130-mm gun M-46 (the maximum firing range of 27 km). The main task for the Armenian troops will be high-quality and quick intelligence positions MLRS enemy. For this purpose can be used drones and overview camera with a large zoom (available on devices with approximately 80-100 fold increase in positions of Armenian Armed Forces).
                Is it a blow to Yerevan quickly lost expensive MLRS - the big question. Especially considering the fact that this attack is of little military significance.


                Naturally, the war is always working normally, "a tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye", so the impact on Yerevan necessarily lead to a strike already on the Azerbaijani capital - Baku. Armenia has these means - to the task cope operational-tactical missile complexes "Iskander" and P-17 "Elbrus". While in Yerevan, some key objectives there is little, then Baku is replete with them - there is the country's only oil terminal (pumping oil export pipelines), close to there own field, etc. Why Azerbaijan needs such risks for the sake of a few tens or hundreds of dead civilians Yerevan - it is unclear.
                Another risk associated with the external factor - a direct attack on the territory of Armenia, and even in the capital, is the real reason for the start of the military operation forces the joint group of forces of Armenia and Russia. Fighting with Russia in Baku unlikely dream, knowing where it will lead very soon.

                As we have said, the commanding heights on the border controlled by the Armenian army. The very same Nakhichevan initially has obvious logistical problems, not possessing the land connection with the rest of Azerbaijan. To carry out the supply of aviation troops - a difficult and costly. In addition, according to rumors, the airspace of Nakhchivan is fully controlled by Turkey, which itself is hardly wish fights on its borders (Ankara clearly enough abominable results in fights for the Syrian Al-Bab and the civil war with the Kurds on their territory).

                In such circumstances, to go to war in this area is simply insane, as this will allow the Armenian side to carry out the offensive with the prospect of encirclement Azerbaijani 5th Army Corps, and, accordingly, its complete defeat in Nakhichevan. To hope to help Turkey and contracts will be hard with it, because in such a scenario "start trouble" Baku itself.
                As a result, Baku has the ability to strike in Yerevan (and it has already been a few years), but the possibility of giving this blow soon Armenia. Whether it will take advantage of Yerevan - it is another question.


                https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2226796.html
                Good summary. Just a dream but I wish they give us the pretext to finally retake Nakhichevan, it would be such a massive boost to our security and economy. All troops guarding the Nakhchevan-Armenia border would be freed up and only deployed across 9 km of Turkish land, near instant railway access to Iran etc.
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                  Originally posted by Federate View Post
                  Good summary. Just a dream but I wish they give us the pretext to finally retake Nakhichevan, it would be such a massive boost to our security and economy. All troops guarding the Nakhchevan-Armenia border would be freed up and only deployed across 9 km of Turkish land, near instant railway access to Iran etc.
                  If such a scenario transpires the military planners nighmare would be how to ship out 300,000 cattle out of Nakhichevan.
                  Which direction, Turkey, Meghri or through Iran like last time.

                  It will be a one way ticket, once they are out they are out.


                  PS. What if the sultan decides not to take them in through Megri or Iran.
                  What if Turkey plays the same game.
                  .
                  Last edited by londontsi; 01-15-2017, 03:45 PM.
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                  Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
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                    A few reports coming in that the Air Strike on Mezzah Airport in Syria was actually a Israeli Missile and it destroyed a S-300 Air Defense System. The question we ask ourselves is why wasn't that missile detected if active that is ... Second , does Israel have advanced Missiles that the S-300 cannot detect ?

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                      If such a scenario transpires the military planners nighmare would be how to ship out 300,000 cattle out of Nakhichevan.
                      Which direction, Turkey, Meghri or through Iran like last time.

                      It will be a one way ticket, once they are out they are out.


                      PS. What if the sultan decides not to take them in through Megri or Iran.
                      What if Turkey plays the same game.
                      .
                      Nakhichevan is already largely depopulated if consistent reports over the years are to be believed. Major unemployment has led to large exodus to Turkey in search of better life. I guess Turkey would have to take in their brotherly refugees (they took in 1 million Syrians) while another part would flee to Iran with or without consent.
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