Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[bell-the-cat]

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if i ever try to go to azerbaijan they will see in my passport a stamp that shows i have been to Artsakh and they will not let me in.

That is probably correct, which is why any NK passport stamps should be put on a removable sheet of paper (like what a visitor to Israel should do if they also plan to visit Syria), but it is not the same thing as being persona non grata. You have to be a named individual to be that.

[Artsakh]

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Karabakh war vet: Azerbaijan paid dearly for killing Artsakh soldiers
From: Mihran Keheyian <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 0:33:08 PDT

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Karabakh war veteran: Azerbaijan paid dearly for killing Artsakh soldiers


May 4, 2011 - 13:53 AMT
PanARMENIAN.Net -

Participants of battles during defense of Getashen and Martunashen
villages, which are currently occupied by Azerbaijan, strongly believe
that the NKR armed forces gave an adequate response to the Azerbaijani
side for the killing of three Artsakh servicemen.

Karabakh war veteran Shmavon Ghulghazaryan expressed belief at a press
conference in Yerevan that Azerbaijan paid dearly for the killing of
Artsakh soldiers.

`Azerbaijanis should know that Armenia's response will be adequate in
case of any infringement upon borders,' said Ghulghazaryan.

On April 29, two Artsakh servicemen were killed in Azerbaijani firing.
Another soldier of the NKR Defense army was wounded. Serviceman Vazgen
Bakhshyan, 19, was wounded in the head as a result of Azerbaijani
firing at NKR positions in the south-eastern part of the line of
contact between the NKR and Azerbaijani armed forces on April 28.
Bakhshyan died on the way to a military hospital.

According to unofficial sources, four Azerbaijani servicemen were
killed as a result of retaliatory measures of the Armenian side.

http://xecutrix.usc.edu/news/msg372671.html

[lampron]

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It is not the people who are there that give me worries, it is the people who are not there: the parasites in Yerevan, the self-proclaimed patriots safe in their American armchairs, the morons here, etc.

It is right to point out the complacency on the Armenian side

Karabakh (Artsakh) has remained Armenian only because the people there stood their ground during years of bombardment. Not because those living in comfort have shouted slogans at a safe distance

[Artsakh]

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It is right to point out the complacency on the Armenian side

Karabakh (Artsakh) has remained Armenian only because the people there stood their ground during years of bombardment. Not because those living in comfort have shouted slogans at a safe distance

that's true, and that goes without saying. however, just because not all of diaspora armenians fought there, does not diminish them, which is what he was trying to do and for that reason his criticism is not constructive.

it isn't diaspora armenian's fault they don't live in armenia. that you must never forget. the diaspora exists because of the genocide, in the first instance.

just because they live outside the borders of armenia, doesn't mean they're less armenian. just because they're living in comfort from a safe distance, doesn't make them care less, and in doing so they're not criminals or any less patriotic than the villager on the fronline.

Diasporan armenians did their part, gave many volunteers, and the most famous commander was a disaporan armenian-monte melkonyan. Diasporan armenians played a role in arms transfers to armenia.

And let's not forget the role of diasporans in helping Armenia's economy. just one name is enough: kirk kirkorian.

In one simple word: The diaspora is armenia's national treasure, and natural resource. It is the Turks and turkish gov't who have been trying to drive a wedge between the republic and its diaspora. And I'll tell you one reason why they're NOT pursuing that policy: THEY'RE NOT PURSUINING FOR THE BENEFIT OF ARMENIA

[ninetoyadome]

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That is probably correct, which is why any NK passport stamps should be put on a removable sheet of paper (like what a visitor to Israel should do if they also plan to visit Syria), but it is not the same thing as being persona non grata. You have to be a named individual to be that.

i was looking at my passport and apparently the Artsakh (Karabakh) visa is separate, meaning it was not stamped in my passport, it was on a small piece of paper but that was from 2004 so i dont know if theyve changed it.

[londontsi]

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RA President Serzh Sarkisian Tours Karabakh Airport

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diog-h7Mo6k&feature=player_embedded

[bell-the-cat]

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i was looking at my passport and apparently the Artsakh (Karabakh) visa is separate, meaning it was not stamped in my passport, it was on a small piece of paper but that was from 2004 so i dont know if theyve changed it.

It is still the same system. But so were Soviet-era visas - they too were on slips of paper that were stapled into your passport - so it might not be made like that to avoid Azerbaijan's restrictions.

[Eddo211]

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I really have to visit NK before it is lost.

With that attitude you don't deserve to step on that land.

The place hasn't a chance in hell of surviving if those that fill this thread are in any way representative of those tasked with defending it.

You only see in negative,tunnel vision, I thought cats had a better vision (you must be a Van cat)....you still don't know Armenians.

Especially since you are now claiming that Azerbaijan (rather than Turkey) has a, to quote your own words, "good military industrial complex to resupply troops with all necessary weaponry".

I have never said that Bells, show me where or shut up....stop derailing this thread, time for your catnap.

[Eddo211]

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Anybody has any news/rumors about Armenia getting Mig-29s from Slovak Republic who have theirs up for Sale?

[Vahramig]

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Eddo,

why bother with Mig 29? 3 S-300 systems in Armenian hands, plus one in Russian base that is a lot of deffence. The only use for that is if we are going up against toorkish F16. We have more than enough air defence to handle all of azerbaboon plus some from toorkey. I would rather us get some smerch systems, and build more anti sniper laser systems. More mines, and cluster munitions, once we start something I want to be able to hit them with a lot of long range rockets.