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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Old missiles not so old after all

    The arms scandal involving an airplane from Libya ended as loudly as it began

    Svetlana Gamova
    ..........

    But it looks like there is another detail that the government will need to explain to the parliament and the people: why were the arms sold to a conflict zone? This question was raised at a Security Commission meeting by the former head of the Information and Security Service, member of the Communist Party, Artur Reshetnikov. Moreover, the OMEGA agency references a source in the Ministry of Economy as saying that the difference between the contract value and the market price of the weaponry sold amounts to at least $5 million. In other words, the product was sold at a discounted price. According to the agency, the secretly sold batch included some of the most expensive arms models of the National Army.
    They included 9V862 automatic checkout equipment, 9V863 Cobra missiles, as well as 9V871-3 for Konkurs-M anti-tank missile complexes. The market price of each of these items exceeds $60,000. The batch also included thousands of xxxot, Konkurs, Shturm-S, and Metis missiles. The market price of these weapon specifications alone exceeds $5 million. In addition to these types of weapons, the contract includes high-cost launchers for jet-powered anti-tank missiles, which according to the Ministry of Economy’s report, were also sold at a noticeably discounted rate. Earlier, at a meeting of the parliamentary National Security Commission, to which the defense minister Vitaly Marinuts was invited as a result of the messy deal, it was stated that the transaction amounted to only 38 million lei ($3.25 million).
    Haha, we just paid 3 million dollars for hundreds of launchers and thousands of missiles? Armenians always get the best deal. Azerbaijan works their ass off and pays billions of dollars to obtain weapons, we simply get them for free from Russia or at discounted prices from Moldova

    As far as I know, Armenia did not possess the following anti-tank missiles:

    9K112 Kobra
    9K115-2 Metis-M (1992 model, fairly new)


    "The Metis-M system adds to the usual positive qualities of a grenade launcher with sharp improvements in range, accuracy and lethality. Owing to the small dimensions and light weight of its components, this manportable system can be carried by its crew in compact packs over any distance and over a wide variety of terrain types—including stream crossing. The three-man crew carries personal weapons and an ammunition load of five missiles. One crew member carries a pack with a missile-loaded launcher, which considerably reduces the time of fire preparation and allows the crew to engage targets whilst moving. In the event of sudden appearance of a target, the operator can fire from the shoulder with the launcher rested against a local object. Two other crew members carry packs with two missiles each."

    "According to accounts by Israeli military, weapons seized from Hezbollah and journalists accounts from Lebanon, the Metis-M was used successfully by Hezbollah fighters during the 2006 Lebanon war against Merkava tanks."
    Now we do.

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
      Long live the Russian Federation and their fair and honest media!



      Yes, Armenians. Read this thoroughly. Especially for all the Russophobes.

      “To the contrary, Armenian-Russian ties support a balance of forces,” Aleksandrov said. “With its presence in the South Caucasus, Russia is creating a counterbalance to Turkey, Iran and preventing the West from getting access to the region, including military. If it wasn’t for Russia, the South Caucasus would be in a similar situation as we are observing in Syria or Libya today.”

      I again state, without the Russian Federation, Armenia would be annahilated by the Azerbaijanis and the Turks, with FULL support of the West. As long as the Russian Federation has interests in Armenia, we should use this potential till the max. We should understand there are pro-Western agents trying to create anti-Russian sentiments in Armenia, and we should all counter this, as this will lead to the destruction of the Armenian state. Ofcourse, Armenia should build good relations with every country in the world, nobody is against that, the point is we should improve and develop our relations with Russians, something a small group of Western fanatics (together with Azeris and Turks) want to destroy.
      Agree 100%
      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
        As far as I know, Armenia did not possess the following anti-tank missiles:

        9K112 Kobra
        9K115-2 Metis-M (1992 model, fairly new)




        Now we do.
        You're wrong, the Metis missile is in our service for a while now...


        27:00 sec you can see fire with the Metis

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Հոկտեմբեր 13, 2011 | 19:49

          Հայաստանի զինված ուժերում մահվան ելքով հերթական միջադեպն է գրանցվել:

          NEWS.am-ի տեղեկություններով, դեպքը տեղի է ունեցել Իջեւանի զորամասում, հոկտեմբերի 13-ին, ժամը 15-ի սահմաններում, իսկ մահացողը ժամկետային զինծառայող, 21-ամյա շարքային Արամ Աշոտի Մելքոնյանն է:

          Արամ Մելքոնյանը Երեւանի բնակիչ էր, զորակոչվել էր 2011թ. առաջին զորակոչի ժամանակ, Նոր Նորքի զինկոմիսարիատից:

          Նշենք, որ սա այս ամսվա ընթացքում արդեն երրորդ մահվան դեպքն է բանակում: Ավելի վաղ NEWS.am-ը հայտնել էր, որ ըստ պաշտոնական վարկածի, հոկտեմբերի 12-ին, ժամը 12.40-ի սահմանում հյուսիսային ուղղությամբ տեղակայված զորամասերից մեկի պահպանության տեղամասի մարտական դիրքում հերթապահություն իրականացնելու ժամանակ, իրեն ամրակցված զենքով ինքնասպանություն է գործել ժամկետային զինծառայող, 19-ամյա Յուրիկ Գեւորգի Ներսիսյանը:

          Վերջինս Խարբերդ գյուղի բնակիչ էր, ԼՂՀ պաշտպանության բանակ էր զորակոչվել Շենգավիթի զինկոմիսարիատից: Նախնական տեղեկություններով, նա հրազենային վնասվածք է ստացել դնչի հատվածում: Մեր աղբյուրը հայտնել էր, որ դեպքից քիչ առաջ վիճաբանություն է եղել Յուրիկ Ներսիսյանի եւ մարտական հենակետում գտնվող ծառայակիցների միջեւ: Վերջիններս ծեծել եւ ստորացրել էին զինվորին:

          Բացի այդ, հոկտեմբերի 9-ին էլ Մարտակերտի զորամասի պահպանության տեղամասի մարտական դիրքում հերթապահություն իրականացնելու ժամանակ, իրեն ամրակցված ԱԿՄ տիպի ինքնաձիգով ինքնասպանություն էր գործել ժամկետային զինծառայող, Խարբերդի 19-ամյա բնակիչ Վլադիմիր Անդրանիկի Ասատրյանը: Նա մահվանից առաջ ձեռքի ափի մեջ գրել էր իրեն ծեծած եւ նվաստացրած զինծառայողների անունները: Մեր տեղեկություններով, գործով ձերբակալվել են երկու ժամկետային զինծառայողներ:

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            guys for the wall there is advantages and disadvantages:
            Disadvantage : their snipers have safe places to hide behind 3 m tall wall..and it will continue like that just like now.. known as "cold war"
            Advantage : they are dealing with the 11,000km square area of Nagorno-Karabakh and they are not working to get it back..cz they realized they cant take the land back.
            and in case of war..they cant approach but just escape.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
              Again:

              First I want to thank burjuin for his contributions on this forum, especially regarding all the photo material of the Armenian army.

              But I want to ask burjuin (the rest of the members and the moderators), not to spam this topic with hundreds of irrelevant photos of the Armenian army. This topic is made to discuss the military balance, and if the photos are showing new equipment relevant concerning the military balance, then you should post it here. Otherwise, on multiple occasions, important information being posted in this topic is lost and people do not read it as the topic is being spammed by dozens of photos.

              I made a special topic for the photos of the Armenian army, called the Military Forces of the Republic of Armenia. Click here.
              I appeal to the moderators to give its opinion on the post of Tigranakert.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                I would say, this thread is fine no need for another

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by Spetsnaz View Post
                  guys for the wall there is advantages and disadvantages:
                  Disadvantage : their snipers have safe places to hide behind 3 m tall wall..and it will continue like that just like now.. known as "cold war"
                  Advantage : they are dealing with the 11,000km square area of Nagorno-Karabakh and they are not working to get it back..cz they realized they cant take the land back.
                  and in case of war..they cant approach but just escape.

                  I have no doubt in my mind the Armenian Army will deal effectively with any “safe” sniping positions.

                  Our side does not have to respond with only sniping rifles to their provocation.

                  Lets not forget our stated policy and response to us taking casualties.

                  By building a wall they formalise the boundary of NKR.
                  Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                  Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                  Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by HyeFighter2 View Post
                    hey guys i have 1 question,i need hellp,in my school there is one azeri guy he is 16 year old,when iam 15! did i gonna tuch him or let to be??? xorhurde petq im yexbayrner!
                    Do NOT do anything. You cannot touch your Azeri schoolmate merely because he is Azeri. That could be considered a hate crime. This is the USA, not the battlefields of the caucasus. You have no right, moral or otherwise, to pick a fight with the guy merely because of his ethnic background. There could be serious consequences, and no filthy turk is worth that. Instead, if you want to REALLY help Armenia, think about donating money to charities, like orphanages, or ArmeniaFund, or to nationalistic organizations that carry out patriotic work.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Donate some money is right, but watch your back! These toorks don't fight fair, he will jump you with his friends when he gets a chance!

                      But if he smiles the wrong way lay him out!

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