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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Time is very important.

    Demographics is nothing compared to defence when your enemy grows stronger with time while you become more dependent on foreign powers.....plus, even if Armenia wanted to pre-empt it would need at least the cooperation of its closest ally because there will also be a political front as well.
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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
      Time is very important.

      Demographics is nothing compared to defence when your enemy grows stronger with time while you become more dependent on foreign powers.....plus, even if Armenia wanted to pre-empt it would need at least the cooperation of its closest ally because there will also be a political front as well.
      If that was true Israel would have been run over long time ago.

      If (?) there will be the "demise of Israel" it will not be because of its demography because
      the "demographics have been in place" for a very long time.

      What matters is how seriously do you address the problem AND take the correct actions to negate its effect.

      Incidentally I want a healthy demographics in our Hayrenik.
      Least of all because with a well managed economy it is the indicator of the “health of the nation”
      as seen from the outside, and giving confidence and morale boost to the people within.
      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        IDF holds the upper hand by a good margine.......the military balance between NKR and Azerbaijan must favor Armenia and safety of its people.

        Time is a factor.....a defensive attack can save lives in future. (bomb their airfields/runways for example if you had the capability).

        I am not saying to do that but an option that should be considered to the people who know the real facts behind the frontlines.
        Last edited by Eddo211; 02-07-2011, 06:06 PM.
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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
          IDF holds the upper hand by a good margine.......


          Did it happen by chance?
          Did it happen because Israel has demographic advantage?
          Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
          Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
          Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by londontsi View Post
            Did it happen by chance?
            Did it happen because Israel has demographic advantage?
            I never said it is not important......when you countryside is overrun and your civilians ghetto stomped demographics will not help.

            Wth that said latest news has it that Armenia is considering Israeli model in military formation.
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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by londontsi View Post
              Did it happen by chance?
              Did it happen because Israel has demographic advantage?

              No, it did not happen by chance. The idf has been funded by American taxpayers for over 30 years now. They have 100s of nukes, and they have a very wealthy diaspora that goes to bat for them, and is much more united than our own. Other than the small size of israel, and Armenia, there is not much else that is the same. Also, add in the factor that the American taxpayer has also helped israel by bribing Arab governments in the region, such as Egypt and Jordan, to keep the peace. Do you see the US giving any money to the Armenian military, or bribing aliyev to keep the peace?
              For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
              to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



              http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Well, if it was not for the big armenian diaspora in USA, USA would be much more favourable to Azerbaijan, and probably wouldn't even think twice about us. But with diaspora help, they have forced US to limit military assistance to Azerbaijan, and encouraged economic assistance to both Armenia and Karabakh, and the karabakh part has always angered Azerbaijan.

                If I was the USA, I would support Azerbaijan all the way. For one reason, oil.
                Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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                "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by Mos View Post
                  Well, if it was not for the big armenian diaspora in USA, USA would be much more favourable to Azerbaijan, and probably wouldn't even think twice about us. But with diaspora help, they have forced US to limit military assistance to Azerbaijan, and encouraged economic assistance to both Armenia and Karabakh, and the karabakh part has always angered Azerbaijan.

                  If I was the USA, I would support Azerbaijan all the way. For one reason, oil.

                  Well contrary to popular belief, the US is interested in more than just oil. If we are talking about specifically Armenia, yes, they may not have much intrinsic interest in Armenia due to it being small, landlocked, and without significant natural resources which American firms could exploit. However, the greater Caucasus region is of geopolitcal (not only due to oil/gas) concern to official Washington and they would love to see the place free of its, in their eyes, petty peoples and ethnic/religious disputes. However, that is a fantasy and not in accordance with reality, so they make nice with all the peoples of the regions and its 3 nation-states, of course those who tow the American line get treated better, as is only natural. They are not going to tell Armenia or the other countries of the Caucasus to piss off just because an American tool, like sakasvilli, is not in charge.
                  For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                  to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                  http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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