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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by burjuin View Post
    Ադրբեջանը սարսափում է զոհված զինծառայողների թիվը հիշատակելուց:

    Indeed. And Armenians should take initiative to keep pressuring and sniping the Azeris instead of reacting. Let's force them to overreact and make mistakes.
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by armnuke View Post
      2 billion 361 million Drams have been collected in the account of NKR government. That's around $5.5 million. I really hope this money is used for the benefit of the population which suffered during the war, and does not go into private pockets. I'm pretty skeptical though.

      I don't want to sound like a naive diasporan nationalist, but in karabakh that's less of a problem than the rest of the region. There is very genuine support among the people for the president.
      In the decades since the post-Soviet war that spawned this little “independent” enclave, the Armenian diaspora in the West has helped turn it into a surprising democracy.



      Originally posted by AbuSindi View Post
      Mher Jan I couldn't agree with you any more. My friend saw people organizing canned food drives, gauze, blankets etc... All in good faith of course, but having served in the military, he knew none of this was useful. First, these things are readily available in Armenia and could be purchased for pennies on the dollar. Secondly, it doesn't help save lives, nor does it provide us with improved offensive/defensive capabilities. It can also be a logistical nightmare. He spoke to someone from the ministry of defense in Armenia, I won't say with whom publicly on this forum. But he is a high ranking official. After their conversation, he decided to start a GoFundMe to buy Celox. Google this product if you are not familiar with it. It stops severe bleeding within seconds and cuts battlefield deaths due to bleeding by 80 percent (if not more). I think the US special forces use this stuff too. We contacted several Armenian accounts on Instagram, Facebook, and other social media. All promised they would help promote this campaign but didn't. We later discovered one was accepting donations for first aid kits (as if band aids and some gauze are going to help in a war zone), the other was posting about a auto leasing company that was promising to donate $100 for every new car leased from them. The car leasing thing really pissed us off. People are trying to catch fish from murky waters. Basically, people are making it about themselves and just really wasting money. We need someone to organize something that either helps save lives or gives our military some sort of offensive/defensive improvement.
      exactly axper
      i saw people collecting a giant box of shampoo, which probably cost a $100, and shipping it to Artsakh costs another $100. A family of a wounded/killed soldier in karabakh can get by with $200 for a month.
      Last edited by Mher; 04-15-2016, 12:32 PM.

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Mher View Post
        exactly axper
        i saw people collecting a giant box of shampoo, which probably cost a $100, and shipping it to Artsakh costs another $100. A family of a wounded/killed soldier in karabakh can get by with $200 for a month.
        There is supermarkets that does home delivery in Armenia might be owned but Oligarchs but if you know of a family you can go online and order stuff they wont have to think about buying food etc for months.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by bayhye View Post
          This group on Facebook has Celox on their Amazon wishlist (alongside a lot of other stuff), and has raised $30K. Looks like they've bought a ton of stuff, hopefully they bought enough of that particular product. https://www.facebook.com/groups/HelpingNeedyinArmenia/

          The one that's been rubbing me raw is all the random universities, groups, etc. raising money for the families. We have 100 grieving families, we should give them $1000-$5000 each, so it's $100-$500K. It's nothing, and I'm sure it's been raised cumulatively from all the groups, but I can sadly guarantee that the splintering of the effort means this will be distributed unfairly, there will be "overhead" and "shrinkage" etc. We need to get our xxxx together with a unifying NPO like the USO is for American troops.
          While I do appreciate the initiative of this group...sorry but no one's dying of hunger in Armenia or NKR. We are not encircled by ISIS in the desert of Palmyra. If you want to help a needy family please send cash, not food which may cost a lot to ship all the way from the USA. Or it's better to send something that helps the soldiers that is not found in Armenia or NKR. Spaghetti, sugar, rice, pampers, canned food, etc..are very abundant in Armenia. We can export some to the USA too

          Is it really perceived in the U.S. that people die of hunger in Armenia?! I'm shocked!
          Last edited by armnuke; 04-15-2016, 02:11 PM.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by armnuke View Post
            While I do appreciate the initiative of this group...sorry but no one's dying of hunger in Armenia or NKR. We are not encircled by ISIS in the desert of Palmyra. If you want to help a needy family please send cash, not food which may cost a lot to ship all the way from the USA. Or it's better to send something that helps the soldiers that is not found in Armenia or NKR. Spaghetti, sugar, rice, pampers, canned food, etc..are very abundant in Armenia. We can export some to the USA too

            Is it really perceived in the U.S. that people die of hunger in Armenia?! I'm shocked!
            I don't think most Armenians in the states think Armenians in Artsakh are starving. There is a reluctance to send cash because there is no trust. Armenia's has a splotchy history when it comes cash donations... I agree it would be more efficient to send cash but there is a genuine level of mistrust between diaspora and the government or NGO's.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Neither do I trust them with cash.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by armnuke View Post
                Neither do I trust them with cash.
                If something can be taken away from this is that we have a huge potential to generate funds.. something we have know for a while. What's needed is an organization that has the trust of the diaspora and the muscle in Armenia to guarantee no money is stolen or embezzled. The amount Armenians around the world want to donate is much higher then what we are seeing.

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    I've been wanting to ask this question for a while. Forgive me but weren't we supposed to be getting the AR1A MRLS from China ? There was a massive brag about it , no more information and no stopping of the order. I think after this last order from Russia , Armenia needs to change its tactic Militarily.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by gokorik View Post
                      If something can be taken away from this is that we have a huge potential to generate funds.. something we have know for a while. What's needed is an organization that has the trust of the diaspora and the muscle in Armenia to guarantee no money is stolen or embezzled. The amount Armenians around the world want to donate is much higher then what we are seeing.
                      Agreed. Donations are one of the easiest things to steal or embezzle from unfortunately and it's not even an Armenian issue, it's a worldwide problem. It will be hard to find one such organization. Hayastan All-Armenia Fund is the closest thing we have had to transparency and efficiency in use of funds, even if it may not be perfect. Anyone who has been to Artsakh can see for themselves.
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