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    Russia Presses For Safeguards Against Karabakh Truce Violations

    Armenia and Azerbaijan should accept specific safeguards against ceasefire violations without “further delay,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Friday during a visit to Yerevan aimed at de-escalating the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

    Lavrov said both conflicting parties should “fully” restore and bolster the ceasefire regime along the Karabakh “line of contact” following the worst fighting in over two decades that broke out there on April 2.

    “These tragic events once again confirmed the fact that this conflict does not and cannot have a military solution and can be settled in a solely politico-diplomatic way,” he said after talks with his Armenian counterpart Edward Nalbandian.

    “We believe that at this stage the absolute priority is to ensure a full and unconditional compliance with the [Russian-mediated] ceasefire agreements of 1994 and 1995, which are open-ended and must be fully respected as such by all,” he added.

    Lavrov travelled to Yerevan amid intense Armenian media speculation that Moscow, having helped to stop the heavy fighting on April 5, is now seeking to revive the Karabakh peace process at the expense of more Armenian concessions to Azerbaijan.

    However, the Russian minister made no mention of any compromise peace accords at the joint news conference with Nalbandian. Instead, he put the emphasis on maintaining and strengthening the truce through confidence-building measures that have long been advocated by Russia as well as the two other mediating powers, the United States and France.

    Lavrov said that Presidents Serzh Sarkisian of Armenia and Ilham Aliyev of Azerbaijan agreed to such measures at a 2011 summit in Kazan, Russia, which nearly yielded a breakthrough. “A further delay in the implementation of those decisions would be wrong,” he stressed.

    Lavrov met with Sarkisian later in the day.

    The proposed safeguards include mutual withdrawal of snipers from the frontlines and a mechanism for OSCE investigations of armed incidents on both the Karabakh “line of contact” and the Armenian-Azerbaijani border. They have been repeatedly backed by Armenia but rejected by Azerbaijan.

    Aliyev charged last month that the confidence-building measures sought by the U.S., Russian and French co-chairs of the OSCE Minsk Group would only “freeze the conflict” and thus boost the Armenian side. “Instead of resolving the conflict, they come up with weird proposals to bolster security along the Line of Contact,” he said.

    In an extensive statement released on Thursday, the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry blamed Yerevan for the April 2 escalation. “With its pre-planned attack Armenia nullified the ceasefire agreement reached in 1994,” it said.

    The Armenian Foreign Ministry brushed aside Baku’s “cynical” claim as an attempt to “cast doubt” on the validity of that agreement which stopped a nearly three-year-long Armenian-Azerbaijani war for the disputed territory.

    Russia’s Foreign Ministry similarly emphasized the “open-ended character” of the 1994 truce in a statement issued later on Thursday. It publicized a similar Russian diplomatic note that was sent to Azerbaijan’s permanent representative to the OSCE headquarters in Vienna on April 12.

    Armenia and Azerbaijan should accept specific safeguards against ceasefire violations without “further delay,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Friday during a visit to Yerevan aimed at de-escalating the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. (UPDATED)

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      Առաջնագծի զինվորները






      Last edited by burjuin; 04-22-2016, 06:53 AM.

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        Originally posted by Mher View Post
        let's not get too excited and act like Santa is granting magical wishes here. Let keep our goals realistic. If the Kurds were able to establish de-facto rule over some of our border with Turkey, it would be an absolutely massive step forward in our geopolitical situation. Ideally, they would lose the length of the border to the Kurds who would be our buffer in between. The entire dynamics of the Caucasus would change in that scenario.
        We should absolutely take advantage of the civil war going on in Turkey. I won't claim to be an expert and state how exactly and I understand our resources are tight but this is definitely an opportunity to exploit if not for our advantage then definitely to at least hurt Turkey and keep them occupied and away from Artsakh. Keep in mind, there are over 18 MILLION kurds in Turkey. That is nearly a 1/4th of the population..

        Also I should add, the southeast region of Turkey is the only connection to Nakhechevian, which means if the kurds can create a buffer between the two then we have Nakhichevan all to ourselves.
        Last edited by Shant03; 04-22-2016, 07:15 AM.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by armnuke View Post
          Russia Presses For Safeguards Against Karabakh Truce Violations
          Now this is commendable! In effect, Moscow is saying that the status quo remains, and for Azerbaijan to stop shooting. That sounds like a plan to me!

          More good news out of Russia:

          Moscow Slams Turkish Reaction To Karabakh Fighting


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          ussia accused Turkey on Friday of inciting an Armenian-Azerbaijan war with its staunchly pro-Azerbaijani statements made immediately after the outbreak of heavy fighting around Nagorno-Karabakh on April 2.

          “The statements by the Turkish leadership are absolutely unacceptable for the simple reason that they were calls for war, not peace,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said during a visit to Armenia.

          “This fundamentally contradicts the position of the [U.S., Russian and French] co-chairs of the OSCE Minsk Group,” Lavrov told a news conference in Yerevan.

          Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan pledged to back Azerbaijan "to the end" hours after fierce clashes involving tanks and heavy artillery broke out along the Karabakh “line of contact.” "We pray our Azerbaijani brothers will prevail in these clashes with the least casualties," he said during a visit to Washington.

          Erdogan also held the U.S., Russian and French mediators responsible for the worst escalation of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

          Armenian President Serzh Sarkisian condemned on April 4 the Turkish support for the “Azerbaijani adventure” in Karabakh.

          Russia, which helped to stop the fighting on April 5, also denounced “one-sided” statements by Erdogan and other Turkish leaders. Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev suggested that the “Turkish factor” might have also been behind the Karabakh escalation.

          Ankara rejected the Russian accusations, saying that Moscow itself has been involved in the Karabakh dispute. Russian-Turkish relations have been strained since last November’s downing of a Russian warplane near the Syrian-Turkish border.

          Successive Turkish governments have unconditionally and fully backed Azerbaijan, a country with which Turkey shares close ethnic affinity, throughout the Karabakh conflict. They have refused to establish diplomatic relations with Armenia and open the Turkish-Armenian border out of solidarity with their Turkic ally.

          Russia accused Turkey on Friday of inciting an Armenian-Azerbaijan war with its staunchly pro-Azerbaijani statements made immediately after the outbreak of heavy fighting around Nagorno-Karabakh on April 2.

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            Originally posted by Artsakh View Post
            Moscow is saying that the status quo remains, and for Azerbaijan to stop shooting. That sounds like a plan to me!
            To me too! Keeping fingers crossed that Russia will stay on this track for many decades.

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              I find it interesting the US hasn't even released a statement related to conflict.. looks like Obama has decided to hide in the closet for the entire month of april and not only during the 24th.

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                Originally posted by Vahram90 View Post
                Vaxenam te meronq aveli shat zoh en tvel paterazmi zhamanak u es pataharner@ horinum en: Husov em, sxalvum em: Im kaskatci hamar paster chkan bayc shat heru chi mer ishxanutyunneric:
                You can check the official story. So far our MOD or news mention how and when the last contact with relatives were made(mostly by phone).
                At first I thought it to be sentimental info, but later realized that it verifies the date of death.
                You have read the words "such and such relative tells that they spoke such and such time". It becom s clear.
                If anybody wants to check, ask the relatives of when was the last time contacted. If before April 5, then you can suspect. But if later, then there is no need to.
                Most probably our news will put article.

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                  Originally posted by armnuke View Post
                  ishxanutyunneroun ches sirum asel che amen inch skhala. es thread@ ishxanutyunneri masin chi.
                  Voch mek chi asel vor ameninch sxal e kam vor es forum@ ishxanutyunneri masin e: Husanq vor mer mtavaxutyun@ chirakanana: Es verjin yerku patahakan zoheri patmutyun@ bayc mi qich tarorinak e tvum...
                  bayc aveli lav e ays temayi masin el chxosenq: Kaprenq ktesnenq

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by Azad View Post
                    To me too! Keeping fingers crossed that Russia will stay on this track for many decades.

                    Russia has been off the rail for us for a while now ( regretfully).

                    The reasons for which they did what they did have not changed.

                    It was business ( and profit ). As far as I can make out the formula for profit have not changed.

                    In fact it is easier. Its like first kill is difficult, subsequent kills do not effect your concious as much.

                    .
                    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                      Originally posted by Hakob View Post
                      You can check the official story. So far our MOD or news mention how and when the last contact with relatives were made(mostly by phone).
                      At first I thought it to be sentimental info, but later realized that it verifies the date of death.
                      You have read the words "such and such relative tells that they spoke such and such time". It becom s clear.
                      If anybody wants to check, ask the relatives of when was the last time contacted. If before April 5, then you can suspect. But if later, then there is no need to.
                      Most probably our news will put article.
                      yes miayn arajin pashtonakan teghekanqn ei kardacel: Shnorhakalutyun parzabanman hamar:

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