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  • #1

    Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

    Should the armenian diaspora have a role in the armenia-turkey dialogue?
    45
    ABSOLUTELY YES
    51.11%
    23
    PROBABLY YES
    17.78%
    8
    PROBABLY NOT
    17.78%
    8
    ABSOLUTELY NOT
    13.33%
    6
    Last edited by Gavur; 04-27-2009, 09:54 PM.
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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    Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

    The way i see it if the borders open and armenia has better relations with turkey than we wont have to rely on unstable georgia all the time, it will ruin azerbaijans attempt to isolate armenia (azerbaijan fails again), our import/export will increase and with these relations azerbaijan will become more frantic to solve the artskah problem and will listen to what armenia has to say because there biggest ally, turkey, now has relations with armenia. The way it will help turkey is they will receive electricity from armenia very cheap after the hydorelectric plant is constructed on the arax, they can probably get into the eu by showing that they are normalizing relations with a country they have not had relations with since 94.

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    • #3
      Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

      Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
      The way i see it if the borders open and armenia has better relations with turkey than we wont have to rely on unstable georgia all the time, it will ruin azerbaijans attempt to isolate armenia (azerbaijan fails again), our import/export will increase and with these relations azerbaijan will become more frantic to solve the artskah problem and will listen to what armenia has to say because there biggest ally, turkey, now has relations with armenia. The way it will help turkey is they will receive electricity from armenia very cheap after the hydorelectric plant is constructed on the arax, they can probably get into the eu by showing that they are normalizing relations with a country they have not had relations with since 94.
      If no one throws a monkey wrench into it, this makes sense and we wouldn't need to oppose this government.
      "All truth passes through three stages:
      First, it is ridiculed;
      Second, it is violently opposed; and
      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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      • #4
        Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

        Originally posted by Gavur View Post
        Should the armenian diaspora have a role in the armenia-turkey dialogue?
        Diasporan Armenians should have a role when and if they're relocating to Armenia.
        Sheer weight of numbers could give the Diaspora the deciding voice without being exposed to the consequences.

        My family were discussing the border issue. Our view is that within 10 years Armenia could be finished. Open the borders, turkish goods & traders will flood the country and buy up the land. The turcs would achieve by commerce what they will never achieve by force.

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        • #5
          Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

          Originally posted by hrai View Post
          Diasporan Armenians should have a role when and if they're relocating to Armenia.
          Sheer weight of numbers could give the Diaspora the deciding voice without being exposed to the consequences.

          My family were discussing the border issue. Our view is that within 10 years Armenia could be finished. Open the borders, turkish goods & traders will flood the country and buy up the land. The turcs would achieve by commerce what they will never achieve by force.
          Hrai jan, vonts en kenelou mer hoghere? Ge gardses te Hayasdani garavaroutyoune tuyl gedan vor mer poker hoghere gul dan? Yes el em shat vaxenum ays sahmanneru pats anelu hamar, payts chem ouzena havadal vor mezme teshnamin mer hoghere ge xele aytbes shoud. Chekidem inch asem, payts sirdes shat shat dexour e ays orerin.

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          • #6
            Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

            ANCA stop interfering with the agenda of the Armenian Government!! ANCA you are not armenia and are not associated with Armenian government! Just bunch of axpars trying to do something armenian in cozy America, with most of them not even going to Armenia. Let Armenia the official country of Armenians make the decisions about Armenia.
            Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
            ---
            "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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            • #7
              Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

              Darinerov gi gohen "mer hogherin,"mezme koghtsaz maserin vira.Irenk girnan kinel'ne menka irentsi gi kinenk, yev gi kalenk vira.
              "All truth passes through three stages:
              First, it is ridiculed;
              Second, it is violently opposed; and
              Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

              Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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              • #8
                Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

                Do you guys know of any scholarly study out there analyzing the border opening?
                Last edited by Gavur; 04-28-2009, 01:20 PM. Reason: spelling
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                • #9
                  Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

                  Originally posted by Gavur View Post
                  Darinerov gi gohen "mer hogherin,"mezme koghtsaz maserin vira.Irenk girnan kinel'ne menka irentsi gi kinenk, yev gi kalenk vira.
                  Gavur jan, shat em huzvads ays orerin sa mer Hayreniki xentirnerov. Sirdes shat ou shat dexur e. Isgabes vor shat engjevads em ays hartserov.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

                    Originally posted by Gavur View Post
                    Do you guys know of any scholarly study out there analyzing the border opening?
                    We can ask an Armenian or a friend who studied International law, but they must go and analyze the situation in there.

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