Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

[lampron]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

There's only one good Turk and that's a dead Turk!!!!!

I think you should drop this 'signature'. You will find Turks who, as human beings, are better than some Armenians.

[arakeretzig]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

I think you should drop this 'signature'. You will find Turks who, as human beings, are better than some Armenians.

nobody is asking for your opinion lampron. He can write what he wants, freedom of speech no?
Also, the "human beings" that you talk about, are the descendants of genocidal maniacs and don't have the simple guts till this very day, because of their cowardliness, to admit what they did. This forum doesn't need your shunturk sympathy.

[UrMistake]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

I think you should drop this 'signature'. You will find Turks who, as human beings, are better than some Armenians.

Mass burial sites of Armenians are excavated in Kars and presented as Turkish ones
August 26, 2010 - 14:00 AMT 09:00 GMT
PanARMENIAN.Net - Mass burial sites were excavated in Kars. TRT-Russian reports that allegedly “skeletons of 183 Turks barbarously killed by Armenians have been found.”

Segments of burnt clothes and human bones have been revealed at a depth of one meter. Stones dated 1334 in the Islamic era, which falls 1918, have drawn attention. The burial site is located near a village of Kars region. Remains of buried people, basically of women and children, indicate that the crime was committed against civilians. This is the third excavated mass burial site in Kars.

There were 850 houses, out of which 600 Armenian houses in Kars in the beginning of the 21st century.

After the unification with Russia in 1828, the number of Armenians amounted to 10250 by 1913. From 1914 to 1917, thousands of Armenian refugees, who had survived slaughter and deportation in Western Armenia, settled down in Kars. On April 25, 1918, Kars was surrendered to Turks without resistance, as a result of which its Christian population, first of all Armenians, had to emigrate to Shirak. On October 30, 1920, troops of Mustafa Kemal occupied the city and annihilated 8000 Armenians.

[londontsi]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

You will find Turks who, as human beings, are better than some Armenians.

You are absolutely right.

Its those Armenian who always express themselves with a low esteem of their nation.

Armenians who target their anger and frustration to the whole nation for their inability to get their own way
or because they are let down, be it a commercial agreement, a debate or a promise for whatever which goes sour.

[retro]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

I think you should drop this 'signature'. You will find Turks who, as human beings, are better than some Armenians.

The Turks, Kurds and Persians all have a lot of oriental Christian blood on their hands. However the Arab also lurks in the shadows here and he insidiously provides poltical cover by not recognizing and denouncing their crimes.

The only two Islamic countries in the world to recognize the Armenian genocide are Iran and Lebanon. Whilst the only nation in the entire world to recognize the Assyrian genocide is Sweden and that resolution only past by one vote.

Yet without atonement, how can there ever be forgiveness?

[londontsi]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

I you multiply 40/50 km by the Armenia-Azeri border line. You would know that within a significant part of Armenia/Arthakh territory the S-300 systems (when located at the border) can target our air force, missiles etc., in our territory. Don’t you think this makes big difference for those who think (pretends to think) that it will just defend Azeri oil fields?

Probably Russia does not want the Azeri oilfields to be damaged for a good reason.
Russia may well not wish for a war either.

However if there is a war the Armenian targets will not be only the oil fields.
It would be the pipeline, territory with associated refugee problem which would be a "worse" problem for Azerbaijan to deal with.

Armenia may well be instructed not to attack the oil fields.
On the assumption that Armenia will prevail, with undamaged oilfields Azerbaijan's only option for export would be Russia.
I understand no pipeline exists south to Iran.

This would be a win win scenario for Russia.

[arakeretzig]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

The Turks, Kurds and Persians all have a lot of oriental Christian blood on their hands. However the Arab also lurks in the shadows here and he insidiously provides poltical cover by not recognizing and denouncing their crimes.

The only two Islamic countries in the world to recognize the Armenian genocide are Iran and Lebanon. Whilst the only nation in the entire world to recognize the Assyrian genocide is Sweden and that resolution only past by one vote.

Yet without atonement, how can there ever be forgiveness?

Only way one to it. By them Acknowledging it and giving back our lands, which we all know wont happen, we will have to do it ourselves someday. However far, that day will come.

[retro]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Only way one to it. By them Acknowledging it and giving back our lands, which we all know wont happen, we will have to do it ourselves someday. However far, that day will come.

Politically Turkey can't surrender territory, merely restore ownership or provide adequate compensation. However sadly I don't see this happening.

That said, instability in Caucasia is not in Turkish economic or secuity interests. As Turkey has a young population and in order to counter unemployment, maintain social stability and develop further. Turkey will need to sustain a high rate economic growth and promote investment.

[Eddo211]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Probably Russia does not want the Azeri oilfields to be damaged for a good reason.
Russia may well not wish for a war either.

However if there is a war the Armenian targets will not be only the oil fields.
It would be the pipeline, territory with associated refugee problem which would be a "worse" problem for Azerbaijan to deal with.

Armenia may well be instructed not to attack the oil fields.
On the assumption that Armenia will prevail, with undamaged oilfields Azerbaijan's only option for export would be Russia.
I understand no pipeline exists south to Iran.

This would be a win win scenario for Russia.

X2......also why no Sukhoi or Mig for Armenia.

[hrai]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

I think you should drop this 'signature'. You will find Turks who, as human beings, are better than some Armenians.

Where can you find these fictional turcs? In your imagination.

Have you ever, ever inter-acted with turc/tatar??