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Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

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  • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

    Originally posted by robertik1 View Post
    I take it you have a vendetta against our brotherly relations with Mother Russia...
    I guess your question is addressed to the; first commander of NKR self-defense; Mr. Arkady Karapetyan. He is the author of this article.
    Last edited by gegev; 07-02-2013, 10:01 PM.

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    • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

      Originally posted by robertik1 View Post
      I take it you have a vendetta against our brotherly relations with Mother Russia...

      I think you are grovelling !!!

      Russia is not Armenia’s mother.
      Mothers by nature do not have brotherly relations with their sons.

      Armenia is an independent nation.
      Has and developing friendly relations with other nations.

      Agreed Russia has a special and unique place, and I would say will "always" have.


      One thing serfs do is by declaring friendship with somebody ( usually a stronger person) they automatically think the feeling is mutual.
      Always to be disappointed.

      Friendship is based on above all mutual respect and trust and then a common purpose.

      Unless there were agreements and reassurances which we are not privy to, we should have been treated better.

      .
      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

        "Armenia is an independent nation."
        This is perhaps the biggest misleading assumption many people here have. No Armenia is not an independent nation. If you cannot guarantee your own security (even from you immediate neighbors) then you are not independent because you will not survive on your own. Many here operate under false premises such as "Armenia is independent, Russia should treat Armenia as a equal partner, Armenia can survive on its own, the west will not allow Turkey to complete the genocide,....). This list of false beliefs goes on and on and is perpetuated by idiots who will not look past their own noses. Your misperception of reality can lead to deadly mistakes from which our nation might not recover from.
        Hayastan or Bust.

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        • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

          I think londontsi needs to face the geopolitical reality at hand. Thats all I have to say.

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          • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

            Originally posted by Haykakan View Post

            "Armenia is an independent nation."

            This is perhaps the biggest misleading assumption many people here have.
            No Armenia is not an independent nation.
            If you cannot guarantee your own security (even from you immediate neighbors) then you are not independent because you will not survive on your own. ....
            The most ridicules definition of independence I have ever heard.


            Armenia is an independent state.

            Geopolitical realities and prudence, considering of our recent history we have security arrangements through treaties and alliances.
            Treaties and alliances are long term and strategic in nature.
            The treaties are in place, any attempt to even discuss is ridicules.

            The whole of Europe, the Middle East , the Far East, Central Asian countries have security arrangements through alliances and/or security treaties.

            WHY?

            According to your definition they cannot be classified as independent.

            .
            Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
            Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
            Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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            • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

              Hmm security arrangements you say? Treaties and alliances you say? Hmm why does this ring a bell? Oh yeh i remember some treaties like that one that was signed by president Wilson that was going to give us a homeland..o and alliances ..how could i have forgotten our alliance with the Young Turks and their promises of freedom and tolerance towards us Armenians. O and lets not forget geopolitical realities-hold on i gotta stop laughing and catch my breath one sec-yes lets not forget geopolitical realities i completely agree with you.
              Hayastan or Bust.

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              • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

                Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                "Armenia is an independent nation."
                This is perhaps the biggest misleading assumption many people here have. No Armenia is not an independent nation. If you cannot guarantee your own security (even from you immediate neighbors) then you are not independent because you will not survive on your own. Many here operate under false premises such as "Armenia is independent, Russia should treat Armenia as a equal partner, Armenia can survive on its own, the west will not allow Turkey to complete the genocide,....). This list of false beliefs goes on and on and is perpetuated by idiots who will not look past their own noses. Your misperception of reality can lead to deadly mistakes from which our nation might not recover from.
                One important fact is that during the karabakh war, some of the most heavy fighting occurred not against Azeris, but Russian soldiers. Russia is guided soley by its national interests. Russia needs Armenia. The major reason Armenia needs Russia is to deter the Turkish threat. That is why I wish for the creation of a Kurdish state in eastern turkey, because a diminished Turkish state will poses a significantly less threat to Armenia's security, and reduce Armenia reliance on Russia, no matter how much worse Kurds are more than Turks.

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                • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

                  Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                  "Armenia is an independent nation."
                  This is perhaps the biggest misleading assumption many people here have. No Armenia is not an independent nation.
                  If you cannot guarantee your own security (even from you immediate neighbors) then you are not independent because you will not survive on your own. Many here operate under false premises such as "Armenia is independent, Russia should treat Armenia as a equal partner, Armenia can survive on its own, the west will not allow Turkey to complete the genocide,....). This list of false beliefs goes on and on and is perpetuated by idiots who will not look past their own noses. Your misperception of reality can lead to deadly mistakes from which our nation might not recover from.
                  Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                  Hmm security arrangements you say? Treaties and alliances you say? Hmm why does this ring a bell? Oh yeh i remember some treaties like that one that was signed by president Wilson that was going to give us a homeland..o and alliances ..how could i have forgotten our alliance with the Young Turks and their promises of freedom and tolerance towards us Armenians. O and lets not forget geopolitical realities-hold on i gotta stop laughing and catch my breath one sec-yes lets not forget geopolitical realities i completely agree with you.
                  The only thing he is able to suggest, for years, is; full and complete surrender.
                  Last edited by gegev; 07-03-2013, 07:02 PM.

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                  • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

                    Nah i just am not willing to commit suicide like you.
                    Originally posted by gegev View Post
                    The only thing he is able to suggest, for years, is; full and complete surrender.
                    Hayastan or Bust.

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                    • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

                      Originally posted by gegev View Post
                      Russia Is Preparing The Armenian Genocide



                      According to the Russian Vedomosti, Russia supplied to Azerbaijan armaments costing 1 billion USD, including three battalions of Т-90С tanks, three battalions of armored vehicles, one division of Msta-S self-propelled howitzer, one division of Smerch BM -30 rocket systems, one division of Vena self-propelled howitzer and one unit Solntsepyok heavy flame thrower system.

                      Interview with first commander of NKR self-defense Arkady Karapetyan
                      Mr. Karapetyan what is Russia’s goal?
                      I agree with commander Karapetyan. Also I think Russia is making sure that in case of a renewed war this will guarantee their involvement militarily in the conflict in the name of helping Armenia but in reality they make sure that Armenia can never gain ground on the Azeris and are imprisoned by Russian interests in the region.

                      Either way Armenian civilian deaths caused by these Russian advance arms has little consequence of their vision but I am sure they will show a face of outrage when it happens and promise to intervene.

                      In my opinion Russian involvement in a renewed war will not be in Armenia's or Artsakh's interests.
                      B0zkurt Hunter

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