Iranian-Armenian relations

[Artsakh]

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ARMENIA PRAISES IRAN'S ROLE IN REGIONAL SECURITY ARCHITECTURE

PanARMENIAN.Net
April 19, 2011 - 16:34 AMT 11:34 GMT

A senior Armenian military official has praised Iran's role in the
regional security architecture, saying that Iran keeps a certain
balance of power and provides its northern neighbor with security.

"The Iranian Army has honored commitments on defending Iran's national
interests and ensuring Iranian nation's security. Over the past years,
Iran has followed a conscious and coherent policy in the region,"
IRNA quoted Armenian Deputy Defense Minister Ara Nazaryan as saying
on Tuesday, April 19, during a ceremony marking Iran's National Army
Day in Yerevan.

He added that Armenia-Iran relations, rooted in mutual interests and
long-established affinity, are currently at the highest level.

For his part, Iranian military attache in Armenia Ahmad Reza Allahdadi
said that Iran has always endeavored to secure regional and global
peace and stability. "That's why Iranian military doctrine is primarily
defensive in nature," he pointed out.

Allahdadi also noted that "Iran's enemies are not in a position to
launch an attack on the Islamic Republic since the country's Armed
Forces are fully prepared to repel possible acts of aggression,"
Press TV reported.

http://xecutrix.usc.edu/news/msg369972.html

[Lucin]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

This what I was getting at - in Iran we do a better job of protecting Armenian women from getting involved in the sex trade than the U.S. or Armenia (for whatever reason).

(In fairness I already admitted that every country, including Iran, has prostitution, whether legal or underground.)

(Man ba khanoom dava nadaram aziz; Ba ehteram barat minivisam.)

Ma dava nemikonim vali gharar ham nist ke hamishe ba ham movafegh bashem. Inja forum-e va kamelan tabiie ke ba ham mokhalefat konim ta harfi baraye goftan bashe.

[Persopolis]

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Context - Lake Urmiah is in Northern Iran near the Turkish border. Russians occupied it and let the Turks slaughter people. This is one of the reasons I find it odd that Russia escapes criticism (as do the Armenians that took Armenia in the direction of "Armenia-SSR.")

NY Times 1915.


The protection of Christians by local Persian and Iranian-Azari civilians is also confirmed in the 1915 British report: "Many Moslems tried to save their Christian neighbours and offered them shelter in their houses, but the Turkish authorities were implacable." (Bryce, James Lord. British Government Report on the Armenian Massacres of April–December 1915.)

For lack of a better word - it's sad what some of your parents have taught you about Iran, Iranian Muslims, Iranian-Azaris, and Iran's decision to bring Christians in the center of Iran (and away from the border with Turkey).

Ma dava nemikonim vali gharar ham nist ke hamishe ba ham movafegh bashem. Inja forum-e va kamelan tabiie ke ba ham mokhalefat konim ta harfi baraye goftan bashe.

Miboosamet aziz.

Iranian MP Bet Kolia appointed head of International Union of Assyrians: Relocates Offices from U.S. to Iran ('Iran is the safest place for Christians.' http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=177615

Tehran Times Political Desk: TEHRAN – Iranian MP Yonatan Bet Kolia, the representative of the Assyrian and Chaldean Christian communities in the Majlis, has been appointed as the secretary general of the International Union of Assyrians. Consequently, after four decades the union’s central office has been relocated from the United States to Iran. The 25th congress of the International Union of Assyrians was held in Sweden from September 3 to 7 where Bet Kolia was appointed to the post for a three-year term. The congress discussed the problems of Assyrians especially the Assyrian immigrants all over the world. Bet Kolia formerly served as the International Union of Assyrians deputy secretary general and head of the union’s Asia department. He intends to announce the union’s future plans in a news conference in the near future.

[KanadaHye]

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The thing is the more laws you make the more laws that are going to be broken. Most clothes aren't banned in Europe you can were what ever you like but what is happening now is that people are being forced to show their faces in public. Muslim women are still allowed to cover their hair and stuff but they have to show their face when they are in public. As long as it stays there I agree with the law but the moment that law crosses the point and starts banning muslim cloths its time for me to speak up against. The thing is you were talking that we have to respect their culture but when are they going to respect European culture? If a woman goes to Iran or SA they have to cover their hair but when Europe does something similair and forces women to show their faces there is drama and politicians are being called facists and racists.

In my opinion the government should stay out of lives and never force us to wear something or force us not to wear something its the same with the bedroom the government doesn't have a right in there.

European "culture" isn't religious. If Europe doesn't want to deal with other cultures wanting to maintain their religious rights, then they should stop with the military invasions of countries which forces migration of religious people.

Let's take this scenario. We both have a home and are able to do what we're accustomed to doing within our home. Now your home gets invaded and you can no longer live there safely but I invite you to live in my home. Except now you have to live by my rules, under my roof. How would you feel about that? Would you feel "liberated"?

[Persopolis]

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European "culture" isn't religious. If Europe doesn't want to deal with other cultures wanting to maintain their religious rights, then they should stop with the military invasions of countries which forces migration of religious people.

You read my mind - seriously I agree with 95% of what I've seen you write here. I hope the Armenian government finds your posts and puts you in a leadership position. (I am not being sarcastic; your survival as a people depends on the leadership of individuals with your mindset.)

[KanadaHye]

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You read my mind - seriously I agree with 95% of what I've seen you write here. I hope the Armenian government finds your posts and puts you in a leadership position. (I am not being sarcastic; your survival as a people depends on the leadership of individuals with your mindset.)

That's unlikely to happen. Besides, I'm working on taking over Canada at the moment

[Artsakh]

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your survival as a people...

It isn't coincidence that the Armenian nation has survived throughout the ages, while powerful empires like those of the Assyrians, Medes, Babylonians all disappeared. Even GENOCIDE could not wipe us out. We have always had brilliant minds within our nation to guide as during the worst of times.

In other words, while we appreciate your heart-aching concern for our nation's future, it would be more adviseable for you to go worry about your own's and it's problems. A wise man puts his own house in order first before worrying about straightening out it's neighbors!

[Persopolis]

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In other words, while we appreciate your heart-aching concern for our nation's future, it would be more adviseable for you to go worry about your own's and it's problems. A wise man puts his own house in order first before worrying about straightening out it's neighbors!

Sorry but the smoke from your roof is getting in my eyes -- if you burn down your neighborhood, I'm sure you'll enjoy Glendale while you roam the streets babbling about what could have been.

[retro]

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It's not about having them follow Western Standards, but giving them the freedom of choice of personal decisions such as what to wear. Why should government have any say in what you wear? Who the hell is government to make that kind of decision for people?

Well it isn't a coincidence that rising nations like China, aren't plagued by women's suffrage issues or that China's poltical system affords, women rights and legal protections. Nor that women are so often "disempowered" in more traditional societies. Which holds them back and undermines there social and economic development.

Iranians are a lot like Hasidic xxxs in a sence. As they are conservative, insular and basically trying to live in the past. However you can't win that way, as the world isn't monolithic and in no small part, due to improvements in transportation, communications and global media coverage. It is far more more globalised and integrated than it was in the past.

What is happening in Syria will of unnerved Tehran and it's only really a question of time before many of these regimes fall. As repression in the end is a very weak instrument of state control and the Arab Spring isn't entirely inorganic in nature.

[retro]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

A statement by the Armenian presidential press service said Sarkisian also reaffirmed Yerevan’s strong interest in their implementation. It said the two presidents specifically discussed ambitions plans to build a railway connecting Armenia with Iran.

The railway construction is estimated to cost at least $1 billion. Neither government has so far identified concrete sources of funding for the project.

This railway line, has positive long term trade implications and is a good idea.