Iranian-Armenian relations

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

You need to bold the relevant part: "I congratulate you once again on the occasion of [this] holiday" -- usually on a holiday Iranian-Muslims don't kick someone in the balls. The speech is mostly empty rhetoric.

However, what I want to know is why you waste so of much your time making excuses for Israel selling Azerbaijan weapons while you are worried about his use of the word "brother" during a holiday? What I also want to know is why you spend so much time covering-up for major J3wish organizations blocking recognition of the Armenian Genocide while you're worried about the word "brother" during a holiday? Same for the spitting on Armenians by Rabbis and Yeshiva students? Where are your posts on these topics? Where is the outrage?

He goes on to say: "Concerning Karabakh issue, we think that this problem should be solved by talks on the basis of justice, and it is necessary that everyone should rely upon talks and fairness." (TRANSLATION: "Don't attack Armenia unless you want an Iranian boot on your throat.")

Armenia has Mortal Enemies to the West and Mortal Enemies to the East - and you spend your time on this stuff? It tells people a lot about you Mos.

(Of course, I'm sure someone will come along and set you straight about what Iranians think about Pan-Turkists - but I won't waste my time on it.)

I bet if Armenian President and Iranian President had the same speech you would be bolding it too. My point is to show that even though Iran holds good relations with Armenia, it also seemingly holds strong relations with Azerbaijan. Presidents don't call each other "brothers" for nothing.

I am not making excuses for Israel giving weapons to Azerbaijan - and I condemn Israel for it. What I am saying is that weapon sales don't justify having an idealogical grudge against a country. So many countries help Azerbaijan, not only Israel, and yes our main ally helps them out to. We condemn that, but we don't hold idealogical grudge against Russia - they are still our allies. When it comes to the J3wish groups blocking recognition that was done based on their strategic alliance with Turkey - but that alliance has broken down and thus the lobby doesn't work with Turkey anymore. As you see another justification for not holding idealogical grudges. International relations are dynamic, they change based on national interests and strategic manoeuvring.

Yes we have good relations with Iran, they should continue, our economic relations are key, but don't turn it into something that it is not. Our main ally is Russia and our main economic partners are Russia/EU. I really don't understand why you are so obsessed with Iranian-Armenian relations and you try to turn into good neighbourly relations into this supreme historic alliance/brotherhood, which realistically it is not.

[Eddo211]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Perspolis you are waisting your time.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Yes we have good relations with Iran, they should continue, our economic relations are key, but don't turn it into something that it is not. Our main ally is Russia and our main economic partners are Russia/EU. I really don't understand why you are so obsessed with Iranian-Armenian relations and you try to turn into good neighbourly relations into this supreme historic alliance/brotherhood, which realistically it is not.

Armenia's main ally is Russia because Armenians have been Russia's bi!tch for the last century. Main economic partners are EU because the majority of Armenia's oligarchs and politicians are wh0res. Persian-Armenian relations ARE HISTORIC. Take the Muslim aspect out of the equation, Persians and Armenians have more in common than Europeans and Armenians or Russians and Armenians. As far as J3wish groups... man, how does Iran put up with Persian J3ws?? They must be saints to put up with them

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Iran wants to see the Nabucco pipelines run through the North and I assume that's the only reason for being chummy with Azerbaijan. Security and development first, then manipulation after...... just blowing smoke up ole Aliyev's vor.

[Eddo211]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Iran wants to see the Nabucco pipelines run through the North and I assume that's the only reason for being chummy with Azerbaijan. Security and development first, then manipulation after...... just blowing smoke up ole Aliyev's vor.

Iran believes Nabucco pipeline (names after the Babylonian King who evicted the J3ws) cannot exsist without Iran's natural gas reserves. Their plan is to feed Europe through Turkey (nothing to do with Azerbaijan or Turkman oil). Iran doesn't want pipelines in south Caucasus and desires peace.

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

As far as J3wish groups... man, how does Iran put up with Persian J3ws?? They must be saints to put up with them

Most of them realized that Israel is crazy - A few years back Israel offered them cash rewards and housing to move from Iran, and they turned Israel down. So, more power to them. Here is a good video that pretty much explains it:

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Most of them realized that Israel is crazy - A few years back Israel offered them cash rewards and housing to move from Iran, and they turned Israel down. So, more power to them. Here is a good video that pretty much explains it:

What about guys like this with sneaky Armenian sounding surnames? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habib_Elghanian

Shortly after the Islamic revolution, the new government of Iran arrested Elghanian and charged him with spying. The charges included "corruption", "contacts with Israel and Zionism", "friendship with the enemies of God", "warring with God and his emissaries", and "economic imperialism". He was tried by an Islamic revolutionary tribunal and sentenced to death. A report by Time magazine states:

Elghanian,who was convicted of spying for Israel, was said to have made huge investments in Israel and to have solicited funds for the Israeli army, which the prosecution claimed made him an accomplice "in murderous air raids against innocent Palestinians."

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Armenia's main ally is Russia because Armenians have been Russia's bi!tch for the last century. Main economic partners are EU because the majority of Armenia's oligarchs and politicians are wh0res. Persian-Armenian relations ARE HISTORIC. Take the Muslim aspect out of the equation, Persians and Armenians have more in common than Europeans and Armenians or Russians and Armenians. As far as J3wish groups... man, how does Iran put up with Persian J3ws?? They must be saints to put up with them

Actually current Armenians of Armenia have more in common with post-Soviet people than Iranians. You are much more likely to see hayastancis hanging out with Russians, Ukrainians, or Georgians than Persians, that's just how it is. Say what you want to say about Russia, if it wasn't for them there would be no Armenian in South Caucasus, and they protect us from the Turks to the west. So you better be grateful for their help, since without it Armenia wouldn't exist.

What do you have against J3ws? J3ws =/= Israelis

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Talking about historic relations - we have very strong, historical and cultural relations with Greeks and Cypriots. Both our people have suffered the same hardships, and face the common enemy the Turks. To bad they don't border us now. Why don't you promote those relations?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Iran believes Nabucco pipeline (names after the Babylonian King who evicted the J3ws) cannot exsist without Iran's natural gas reserves. Their plan is to feed Europe through Turkey (nothing to do with Azerbaijan or Turkman oil). Iran doesn't want pipelines in south Caucasus and desires peace.

Iran also has an invested interest in sell the Caspian gas... one way to do so is through the Nabucco project since the PKK keeps blowing up pipelines.