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  • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
    Well, also if assimilation occurs in Russia they are at least close to the homeland, and the average Russian has heard of Armenia and can more or less point it out on a map. Also, Russian culture is closer to Hayastanci culture than is American.
    yes, and remember given the many azeris and georgians living there, it's hard for one to forget who he is. Plus an Armenian stays an Armenian, it's much harder to become a Russian, while in America, the society pulls you to forget your native culture and be mixed in the melting pot of "American identity". Americanisation is much more lethal and quick, than Russification.
    Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
    ---
    "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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    • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

      Originally posted by Mos View Post
      yes, and remember given the many azeris and georgians living there, it's hard for one to forget who he is. Plus an Armenian stays an Armenian, it's much harder to become a Russian, while in America, the society pulls you to forget your native culture and be mixed in the melting pot of "American identity". Americanisation is much more lethal and quick, than Russification.
      Assimilation in America is an anomaly... it works so well that Americans are vaguely aware of the fact that they can trace their ancestry to all parts of the world. It's sad really.
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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      • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        Assimilation in America is an anomaly... it works so well that Americans are vaguely aware of the fact that they can trace their ancestry to all parts of the world. It's sad really.
        And that's how America has strengthened, because it has untied people under this one ambiguous identity. I really fail to see how such a bland identity is attractive. The sad thing is some Armenians have taken it a step further and assimilated themselves with the Black/Hispanic culture of America. Now that's even worse.
        Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
        ---
        "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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        • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

          Originally posted by Mos View Post
          And that's how America has strengthened, because it has untied people under this one ambiguous identity. I really fail to see how such a bland identity is attractive. The sad thing is some Armenians have taken it a step further and assimilated themselves with the Black/Hispanic culture of America. Now that's even worse.
          Sh*t tends to gravitate toward sh*t.
          For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
          to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



          http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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          • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

            All I know is that Armenians in Iran have been there for many, many centuries and they're still very much Armenian and very welcome to be. As I've said before we love and respect them very much. And in Turkey ...

            TURKEY - Armenians


            IRAN - Armenians 17.5% of Armenians in the region live in Iran (rough math: 7 mill. divided by 400,000 = 17.5%); as everyone should know by now, it's been like this for centuries without the dangers Armenians have faced in other countries. Israel has started a campaign to slander Iran as anti-Christian because Iran won't let *Zionist-Christians* set up political operations in Iran. Who wants the Zionist-Christian movement to come to Armenia and to work their magic there? Your women would quickly end up in porno theaters in Tel Aviv.


            * Will the Armenians in the USA still be Armenian in 50 years?

            * And if Nakhchivan turns into a Turkish/Azerbaijan land bridge, Armenia is in mortal danger as the Pan-Turkists want to cut Armenia off from Iran as they know Iran historically been vital to Armenia's survival.
            Last edited by Persopolis; 04-03-2011, 02:30 PM.

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            • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

              I feel the best thing right now is for the global economic situation to worsen so that Armenia is a good alternative to where Armenians are currently living. If you're going to have to work hard in life, it might as well be for your own country.
              "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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              • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                I feel the best thing right now is for the global economic situation to worsen so that Armenia is a good alternative to where Armenians are currently living. If you're going to have to work hard in life, it might as well be for your own country.
                Kanada-jan: I assume you mean to force the diaspora in America to return; I think it's always vital for some Armenians to remain in Iran (remember it's just a short car trip over the border and without the dangers of assimilation Armenians face elsewhere). It's also nice to have Armenians in Iran's Congress, etc.

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                • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                  Originally posted by Persopolis View Post
                  Kanada-jan: I assume you mean to force the diaspora in America to return; I think it's always vital for some Armenians to remain in Iran (remember it's just a short car trip over the border and without the dangers of assimilation Armenians face elsewhere). It's also nice to have Armenians in Iran's Congress, etc.
                  Well, a lot of Armenians left Iran for America as well. If living standards were the same all around the world and there were no advantages or "opportunities", I'd think there might be instances of reverse migration.

                  If America continues down the current trends of assimilation, it's just going to be another Brazil.
                  Last edited by KanadaHye; 04-03-2011, 02:48 PM.
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                    Well, a lot of Armenians left Iran for America as well. If living standards were the same all around the world and there were no advantages or "opportunities", I'd think there might be instances of reverse migration.

                    If America continues down the current trends of assimilation, it's just going to be another Brazil.

                    Do you mean it will be like Brazil socio-economically?
                    For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                    to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                    http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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                    • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                      Originally posted by Armanen View Post
                      Do you mean it will be like Brazil socio-economically?
                      Well, I see a lean towards socialist policies but I mean demographically it will be like Brazil. Historically, Brazil has experienced large degrees of ethnic and racial miscegenation, assimilation of cultures and syncretism. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Brazil )

                      I see the liberal parts of America having the same fate.
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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