Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Lol, right... if anything your the one taking the same path as the Turks by trieng to divide Kurds in your country, and you this is an internal Yazidi issue and whether they want to be called kurds or not doesn't change the fact that they are kurds, their just un-educated, once they pay a visit they'll come back to their roots, after all there are even Americans that call themselves Kurds now

You don't get it do you they don't want to be called Kurds, we will not force an identity on them that they don't want. When will you stop this racist BS and accept the choice of these people to do as they see fit. They don't need your permission or any other Kurds to do as they see fit. They don't want to be Kurds they aren't Kurds then.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

You are trying to force it on people that don't want to accept it. It doesn't matter what they believe the ones living in Armenia don't want to be called Kurds, and they wont be. You forcing them accept Kurdishness is against their basic human rights. You are no better than the Turk that insisted that the Kurd was just mountain Turk and no such thing as a Kurd existed.

Lol, right... if anything your the one taking the same path as the Turks by trieng to divide Kurds in your country, and you this is an internal Yazidi issue and whether they want to be called kurds or not doesn't change the fact that they are kurds, their just un-educated, once they pay a visit they'll come back to their roots, after all there are even Americans that call themselves Kurds now

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

I told you, Yazidis in southern Kurdistan are not happy with the situation of their people in Armenia, it's not forcing, rather education people, becuase obviously they living in Armenia and cut off from the rest of the Kurdish population has resulted in them being brainwashed.

All our minorities are happy, including Turkmen, and we don't force Kurdish on anyone, in fact every minority group have their own schools in which they learn their own language first, and Kurdish second (if they wish to continue to university, and for employment).

You are trying to force it on people that don't want to accept it. It doesn't matter what they believe the ones living in Armenia don't want to be called Kurds, and they wont be. You forcing them accept Kurdishness is against their basic human rights. You are no better than the Turk that insisted that the Kurd was just mountain Turk and no such thing as a Kurd existed.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Proof that they are not happy? They themselves don't want to be called Kurds.

In Armenia everyone is equal as any other real state. How are you more tolerant, by forcefully 're-educating' people accepting your view of them? Is that what is tolerant and liberal?

I told you, Yazidis in southern Kurdistan are not happy with the situation of their people in Armenia, it's not forcing, rather education people, becuase obviously they living in Armenia and cut off from the rest of the Kurdish population has resulted in them being brainwashed.

All our minorities are happy, including Turkmen, and we don't force Kurdish on anyone, in fact every minority group have their own schools in which they learn their own language first, and Kurdish second (if they wish to continue to university, and for employment).

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Read what I wrote again, the YAZIDI themselves are not happy about it, they themselves stated that their Kurdishness will not be compromised or challenged, so if they want to re-educate their own religious brothers that live else where, no body can stop them.

http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/1/231184/

You won't win, our constitution and actions prove that we are way more tolerant than you are.

Proof that they are not happy? They themselves don't want to be called Kurds.

In Armenia everyone is equal as any other real state. How are you more tolerant, by forcefully 're-educating' people accepting your view of them? Is that what is tolerant and liberal?

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

OOOOhhhh the new state will be such a liberal place. You will force people to accept something that they don't want. Re-education in special camps yes the sate will be a bacon of freedom and equality. :s

Read what I wrote again, the YAZIDI themselves are not happy about it, they themselves stated that their Kurdishness will not be compromised or challenged, so if they want to re-educate their own religious brothers that live else where, no body can stop them.

Erbil, April 11 (AKnews) – The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) has opened for the first time a museum for the Syriac Heritage in Erbil, the capital of Kurdistan Region.
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The museum was opened in a ceremony in the predominantly Christian town of Ainkawa, some 5 km west of Erbil city, where more than 2,000 artifacts have been put on the showcase.

“When we talk bout protecting the Christians, we do not mean to protect them as refugees, they are indigenous people of this country and have contributed to determining the history of Iraq” said Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG)'s Minister of Culture and Youths Kawa Mahmoud during the opening.

Syriac personalities including the Beshar Mati Warda, archbishop of Chaldean Diocese of Erbil.

“we are very pleased to see this museum open in Erbil where our history is being preserved” said Warda, “It is regrettable tat the Iraqi government has not taken such a brave step, thus denying our history which is a form of terror”

“We do not need the construction of churches, but schools where our history is studied so that the Iraqi people know how much we have served this country” he added.

The museum shows 2000 artifacts that include clothes, agricultural tools, home equipments, Syriac writings, journalism, music instruments, and all the heritage that date back to some 50 to 250 years collected from around Iraqi cities and towns, said Saadi Malih, director of Syriac Culture in the KRG Ministry of Culture and Youth.

http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/1/231184/

You won't win, our constitution and actions prove that we are way more tolerant than you are.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Yeah yeah, the typical ignorant behavior "I'm right, everyone is wrong' If you didn't bother to read, the report followed an interview.

More Yazidi sites: http://www.ezdixane.ru/ in Russian.

It's inevitable, Yazidis are among the most nationalist Kurds in the south, you think they will just let you brain wash their people in Armenia? you think eventually there will not be frequent visits to lalish? it's just a matter of time, and that twat, fool that your government bought will fail, I mean the kind of crap he said was amazing, I don't know where you found him, he spoke to the reporter in Kurmaji Kurdish and said 'The yazidi language is different, we can't understand Kurds' while he was speaking to the reporter in the same language, it's ridiculous what some uneducated trolls will do for money, but don't worry it won't be too long becuase their re-educated.

OOOOhhhh the new state will be such a liberal place. You will force people to accept something that they don't want. Re-education in special camps yes the sate will be a bacon of freedom and equality. :s

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

More sources (Books) -

http://books.google.com/books?id=pyAlAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA2-PA490&dq=Yezidi+kurds&hl=en&ei=LkLxTY26FMe6hAeRz_Ur&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Yezidi%20kurds&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=gwZQAAAAMAAJ&pg=PT43&dq=Yezidi+kurds&hl=en&ei=LkLxTY26FMe6hAeRz_Ur&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Yezidi%20kurds&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=E4CiKKGrcu0C&pg=PA136&dq=Yezidi+kurds&hl=en&ei=DELxTby7O4KChQfZhbEZ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CFoQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Yezidi%20kurds&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=q_189OeDwSMC&pg=PA490&dq=Yezidi+kurds&hl=en&ei=DELxTby7O4KChQfZhbEZ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CFYQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Yezidi%20kurds&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=njQMAQAAMAAJ&q=Yezidi+kurds&dq=Yezidi+kurds&hl=en&ei=DELxTby7O4KChQfZhbEZ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBA

http://books.google.com/books?id=zPURfHC65xUC&pg=PA40&dq=Yezidi+kurds&hl=en&ei=DELxTby7O4KChQfZhbEZ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Yezidi%20kurds&f=false

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

So you use the daily mail that not even British people use in debates because it is filled with so much BS no one takes it seriously. Your Second source if it even can be called that is a Kurdish newspaper so if you find real sources. You really should do better result before posting.

Yeah yeah, the typical ignorant behavior "I'm right, everyone is wrong' If you didn't bother to read, the report followed an interview.

More Yazidi sites: http://www.ezdixane.ru/ in Russian.

It's inevitable, Yazidis are among the most nationalist Kurds in the south, you think they will just let you brain wash their people in Armenia? you think eventually there will not be frequent visits to lalish? it's just a matter of time, and that twat, fool that your government bought will fail, I mean the kind of crap he said was amazing, I don't know where you found him, he spoke to the reporter in Kurmaji Kurdish and said 'The yazidi language is different, we can't understand Kurds' while he was speaking to the reporter in the same language, it's ridiculous what some uneducated trolls will do for money, but don't worry it won't be too long becuase their re-educated.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Not every situation can be compared, and must be looked at and analyzed on an individual basis, and I don't care about the dutch, the Yazidi however are Kurds, and have always been Kurds, and like I said 40,000 confused Yazidis in Armenia will not change anything, every scholar in the world is lunging at what the notion of a yazidi ethnicity and everyone in the world knows Yazidis are Kurds, including the Yazid:

Yazidis are predominantly ethnic Kurds http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Yazidis.html

Now, I've provided so many sources, all you've done, is twist my words, make a stupid comparison and think your right, so like I said, I will just ignore you from now on.



More @ http://www.rudaw.net/english/culture_art/3626.html or in Russian: http://www.ezdixane.ru/content/view/2014/27/

Yazidi Kurds else where are now fully aware of your intentions, and it will not go un-noticed, trust me.

Like I told you, eventually Kurdistan will be much more appealing to these people than Armenia is, and once more frequent visits to their holy sites of Lalish occur, all we have to do is re-educate them, so your efforts will fail miserably.

So you use the daily mail that not even British people use in debates because it is filled with so much BS no one takes it seriously. Your Second source if it even can be called that is a Kurdish newspaper so if you find real sources. You really should do better result before posting.