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Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia
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Originally posted by KarotheGreat View PostYou are trying to force it on people that don't want to accept it. It doesn't matter what they believe the ones living in Armenia don't want to be called Kurds, and they wont be. You forcing them accept Kurdishness is against their basic human rights. You are no better than the Turk that insisted that the Kurd was just mountain Turk and no such thing as a Kurd existed.
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Originally posted by kurdman View PostI told you, Yazidis in southern Kurdistan are not happy with the situation of their people in Armenia, it's not forcing, rather education people, becuase obviously they living in Armenia and cut off from the rest of the Kurdish population has resulted in them being brainwashed.
All our minorities are happy, including Turkmen, and we don't force Kurdish on anyone, in fact every minority group have their own schools in which they learn their own language first, and Kurdish second (if they wish to continue to university, and for employment).
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Originally posted by KarotheGreat View PostProof that they are not happy? They themselves don't want to be called Kurds.
In Armenia everyone is equal as any other real state. How are you more tolerant, by forcefully 're-educating' people accepting your view of them? Is that what is tolerant and liberal?
All our minorities are happy, including Turkmen, and we don't force Kurdish on anyone, in fact every minority group have their own schools in which they learn their own language first, and Kurdish second (if they wish to continue to university, and for employment).
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Originally posted by kurdman View PostRead what I wrote again, the YAZIDI themselves are not happy about it, they themselves stated that their Kurdishness will not be compromised or challenged, so if they want to re-educate their own religious brothers that live else where, no body can stop them.
You won't win, our constitution and actions prove that we are way more tolerant than you are.
In Armenia everyone is equal as any other real state. How are you more tolerant, by forcefully 're-educating' people accepting your view of them? Is that what is tolerant and liberal?
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Originally posted by KarotheGreat View PostOOOOhhhh the new state will be such a liberal place. You will force people to accept something that they don't want. Re-education in special camps yes the sate will be a bacon of freedom and equality. :s
Erbil, April 11 (AKnews) – The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) has opened for the first time a museum for the Syriac Heritage in Erbil, the capital of Kurdistan Region.
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The museum was opened in a ceremony in the predominantly Christian town of Ainkawa, some 5 km west of Erbil city, where more than 2,000 artifacts have been put on the showcase.
“When we talk bout protecting the Christians, we do not mean to protect them as refugees, they are indigenous people of this country and have contributed to determining the history of Iraq” said Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG)'s Minister of Culture and Youths Kawa Mahmoud during the opening.
Syriac personalities including the Beshar Mati Warda, archbishop of Chaldean Diocese of Erbil.
“we are very pleased to see this museum open in Erbil where our history is being preserved” said Warda, “It is regrettable tat the Iraqi government has not taken such a brave step, thus denying our history which is a form of terror”
“We do not need the construction of churches, but schools where our history is studied so that the Iraqi people know how much we have served this country” he added.
The museum shows 2000 artifacts that include clothes, agricultural tools, home equipments, Syriac writings, journalism, music instruments, and all the heritage that date back to some 50 to 250 years collected from around Iraqi cities and towns, said Saadi Malih, director of Syriac Culture in the KRG Ministry of Culture and Youth.
You won't win, our constitution and actions prove that we are way more tolerant than you are.
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Originally posted by kurdman View PostYeah yeah, the typical ignorant behavior "I'm right, everyone is wrong' If you didn't bother to read, the report followed an interview.
More Yazidi sites: http://www.ezdixane.ru/ in Russian.
It's inevitable, Yazidis are among the most nationalist Kurds in the south, you think they will just let you brain wash their people in Armenia? you think eventually there will not be frequent visits to lalish? it's just a matter of time, and that twat, fool that your government bought will fail, I mean the kind of crap he said was amazing, I don't know where you found him, he spoke to the reporter in Kurmaji Kurdish and said 'The yazidi language is different, we can't understand Kurds' while he was speaking to the reporter in the same language, it's ridiculous what some uneducated trolls will do for money, but don't worry it won't be too long becuase their re-educated.
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Museums face the task of representing the similarities and differences that exist between groups, such as national identities and indigenous and minority voices, material and intangible heritage, and current status and past history. In order to achieve this aim, a complex and not always easily compatible set of interests have to be taken into account, from those of the museum itself, to those of its main audiences, sources of support, and the groups that are, or wish to be, represented. The approach taken by Scandinavian museums in response to this challenge highlights a very active concern for forms of cultural diversity and how they are interrelated. By bringing together debates and discussions of diversity, this volume offers insight into the Nordic region and its diverse peoples, from the Sámi and the Inuit to newer immigrants. It presents a set of historical reviews on the formation of national museums and emerging and contested perceptions of national identity. Furthering the general debate on representations of diversity and museums, it also offers museum curators possible ways forward.
The Aim Of This Encyclopaedia Is To Highlight The Living Style Of More Than 350 Million People Of 47 Countries Of Middle-East And Central Asian Countries Who Have Been Residing In These Areas (Both Past And Present) And The Factors That Have Caused The Culture To Change Over Time And Place. This Monumental Work Presents An Ethnographical Analysis Of 227 Ethnic Communities Written By Eminent Scholars Which Deals With The Physical, Historical, Social, Political, Economic, Religious And Cultural Life. Summaries Of Each Entry Usually Provide Information On The Following Aspects: Physical Features; History Of Origin And Development; Social Life; Marriage And Family; Political Organisation; Social Conflict And Control; Economic And Commer-Cial Activities; Religion And Culture; And Bibliography For Further Studies.
Into Kurdistan is a journey through the lives of a people without a country. Part travelogue and part political commentary, it portrays both the pride and the oppression of the Kurdish people. Sheri Laizer recounts the drama of a family living close to the border, hearing gunshots and wondering if a favoured son will make it home at night. She shares the companionship of Kurdish women in the mountains, washing in the melted snow. She captures the ambiguity of Kurdish intellectuals entwined in the cultural life of Turkey, a country which refuses to acknowledge the very existence of Kurdish identity. And she paints a vivid picture of the centuries of tradition behind the people who have given the Middle East some of its greatest heroes, from Saladin onwards. Into Kurdistan uncovers the recent atrocities in Iraq, and the systematic persecution suffered by the Kurds in Turkey. In a marvellous blend of political commentary, folktale and sympathetic observation, Sheri Laizer helps us understand the people behind the headlines.
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Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia
Originally posted by KarotheGreat View PostSo you use the daily mail that not even British people use in debates because it is filled with so much BS no one takes it seriously. Your Second source if it even can be called that is a Kurdish newspaper so if you find real sources. You really should do better result before posting.
More Yazidi sites: http://www.ezdixane.ru/ in Russian.
It's inevitable, Yazidis are among the most nationalist Kurds in the south, you think they will just let you brain wash their people in Armenia? you think eventually there will not be frequent visits to lalish? it's just a matter of time, and that twat, fool that your government bought will fail, I mean the kind of crap he said was amazing, I don't know where you found him, he spoke to the reporter in Kurmaji Kurdish and said 'The yazidi language is different, we can't understand Kurds' while he was speaking to the reporter in the same language, it's ridiculous what some uneducated trolls will do for money, but don't worry it won't be too long becuase their re-educated.
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Originally posted by kurdman View PostNot every situation can be compared, and must be looked at and analyzed on an individual basis, and I don't care about the dutch, the Yazidi however are Kurds, and have always been Kurds, and like I said 40,000 confused Yazidis in Armenia will not change anything, every scholar in the world is lunging at what the notion of a yazidi ethnicity and everyone in the world knows Yazidis are Kurds, including the Yazid:
Yazidis are predominantly ethnic Kurds http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Yazidis.html
Now, I've provided so many sources, all you've done, is twist my words, make a stupid comparison and think your right, so like I said, I will just ignore you from now on.
More @ http://www.rudaw.net/english/culture_art/3626.html or in Russian: http://www.ezdixane.ru/content/view/2014/27/
Yazidi Kurds else where are now fully aware of your intentions, and it will not go un-noticed, trust me.
Like I told you, eventually Kurdistan will be much more appealing to these people than Armenia is, and once more frequent visits to their holy sites of Lalish occur, all we have to do is re-educate them, so your efforts will fail miserably.
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