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Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

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  • kurdman
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    Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
    I did the same thing as you did, it is not my fault that you don't know the history of the Low Lands is it? And do you think you will achieve anything with insulting me? Will it make your point somehow better? Or will it give you more credibility?
    Not every situation can be compared, and must be looked at and analyzed on an individual basis, and I don't care about the dutch, the Yazidi however are Kurds, and have always been Kurds, and like I said 40,000 confused Yazidis in Armenia will not change anything, every scholar in the world is lunging at what the notion of a yazidi ethnicity and everyone in the world knows Yazidis are Kurds, including the Yazid:

    Yazidis are predominantly ethnic Kurds
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Yazidis.html

    Now, I've provided so many sources, all you've done, is twist my words, make a stupid comparison and think your right, so like I said, I will just ignore you from now on.

    Armenian parliament supports Yazidikhaya

    Many Armenian politicians support Amare’s group and not those that consider Yazidis to be Kurds. This has further contributed to the Yazidis’ identity crisis. The politicians’ support for Amare’s organization is mostly because of historical reasons, among them the massacre of Armenians by the Ottomans in early 20th century. Many Armenian Kurds say the parts of Kurdistan currently in Turkey were historically populated by Armenians, before the Kurds took over the area.

    In 2002, the Armenian parliament passed a resolution identifying the Yazidis as non-Kurds while in reality right wing Armenians have look down upon all minorities in Armenia, not only Kurds.

    Another major factor contributing to this identity crisis is the lack of any relationship between Kurds in various parts of Kurdistan and the Yazidis of Armenia. The Reya Taza newspaper, the most important Kurdish publication in Armenia, does not receive any support from the Kurds of other parts of Kurdistan.

    Yazidikhana newspaper however, the one that opposes the Kurds, receives support from the Armenian government and it is published on a weekly basis. Also, half of the one-hour Kurdish radio broadcast in Armenia is dedicated to those who argue that Yazidis are not Kurds.

    Another major problem is the weakening of Kurdish identity among urban Yazidis, especially those living in the capital and other large cities and do not care if they are Kurds or not. Also, many Kurds who live as minorities in villages dominated by conservative Armenians avoid revealing their Kurdish identity, so as to not provoke their Armenian neighbors.
    More @ http://www.rudaw.net/english/culture_art/3626.html or in Russian: http://www.ezdixane.ru/content/view/2014/27/

    Yazidi Kurds else where are now fully aware of your intentions, and it will not go un-noticed, trust me.

    Like I told you, eventually Kurdistan will be much more appealing to these people than Armenia is, and once more frequent visits to their holy sites of Lalish occur, all we have to do is re-educate them, so your efforts will fail miserably.

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  • KarotheGreat
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    Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

    Originally posted by kurdman View Post
    Now your just making comparisons instead of using actual scientific and factual statements to counter me, like I said this stops here, I have no desire in proving anything to an ignorant person like you. It's like talking to a brick wall.
    I did the same thing as you did, it is not my fault that you don't know the history of the Low Lands is it? And do you think you will achieve anything with insulting me? Will it make your point somehow better? Or will it give you more credibility?

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  • kurdman
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    Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
    Let us compare

    Dutch speak Dutch: Flemish people speak Dutch
    Dutch pray in Dutch: Flemish people pray in Dutch
    Dutch religious books are in dutch so are the Flemish
    They have the same culture
    They dress the same

    so are they the same people? No they aren't even though they have so many similarities.
    Now your just making comparisons instead of using actual scientific and factual statements to counter me, like I said this stops here, I have no desire in proving anything to an ignorant person like you. It's like talking to a brick wall.

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  • KarotheGreat
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    Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

    Originally posted by kurdman View Post
    Let's see what makes a Kurd: and comparing to Yazid.

    Kurds speak Kurdish: Yazidi Speak Kurdish
    Kurds pray in Arabic: Yazidi pray in Kurdish
    Kurdish religious books written in Arabic/Kurdish: Yazidi books written in Kurdish
    Kurdish culture is the same as Yazidi culture
    Kurdish clothes are the same as Yazidi clothes
    All kurds were yazidi before Islam

    = Yazidi original Kurds.

    You fail.
    Let us compare

    Dutch speak Dutch: Flemish people speak Dutch
    Dutch pray in Dutch: Flemish people pray in Dutch
    Dutch religious books are in dutch so are the Flemish
    They have the same culture
    They dress the same

    so are they the same people? No they aren't even though they have so many similarities.

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  • kurdman
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    Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
    Since this is a forum where people discuss things; so no it doesn't stop here. You haven't given any real evidence or proof. They call themselves what ever they want, that happens in free countries.
    Let's see what makes a Kurd: and comparing to Yazid.

    Kurds speak Kurdish: Yazidi Speak Kurdish
    Kurds pray in Arabic: Yazidi pray in Kurdish
    Kurdish religious books written in Arabic/Kurdish: Yazidi books written in Kurdish
    Kurdish culture is the same as Yazidi culture
    Kurdish clothes are the same as Yazidi clothes
    All kurds were yazidi before Islam

    = Yazidi original Kurds.

    You fail.

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  • KarotheGreat
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    Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

    Originally posted by kurdman View Post
    Are you just trieng to act stupid or what? you have no evidence while I have plenty, and this is just ridiculous, I don't need to prove to you that Yazidi are Kurds, the majority of them - confused brainwashed ones in Armenia stated their Kurds, so this will stop here.
    Since this is a forum where people discuss things; so no it doesn't stop here. You haven't given any real evidence or proof. They call themselves what ever they want, that happens in free countries.

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  • kurdman
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    Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

    Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5364982.stm




    Furthermore, Iraqi-Kurdistan gets weapons and other form of military supplies as a part of US's supplying the "Iraqi Army" in general. Also, there have been substantial financial investments largely in the oil-sector by the US, if it was not up to them, you would still be living under Saddam's wrath.
    Haha! the same could be said about saddam, if certain countries didn't sell him advanced aircraft he could never beat us besides, we kicked Iraqi army ass in 1964, which is when Iraq agreed to autonomy in 1970, but after certain countries sold him advanced weaponry, and since no land force can beat us in our mountains, the Iraqia army acquired advanced aircraft which is the only way they can beat us.

    Err... these are just private companies, and we paid for that, it was not 'assistance' or 'free' and since america is training the Iraqi army it also trains us, nothing special and it's not special treatment for us.

    You fail.

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  • Tigranakert
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    Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

    Originally posted by kurdman View Post
    Kurds are Iranian, but Iranian is a race, and since the creation of Iran and the nationality Iranian, to avoid confusion the term Iranic is used instead, which basically means Indo-Aryan, which is a race and not ethnicity.

    You too can read post 130, then if you come back if any sources I might take you a little bit seriously, like wise I'm looking forward to your sources for these 'military aids'
    BBC, News, BBC News, news online, world, uk, international, foreign, british, online, service





    Furthermore, Iraqi-Kurdistan gets weapons and other form of military supplies as a part of US's supplying the "Iraqi Army" in general. Also, there have been substantial financial investments largely in the oil-sector by the US, if it was not up to them, you would still be living in the sh*t situation you were in under Saddam's wrath.
    Last edited by Tigranakert; 06-09-2011, 01:11 PM.

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  • kurdman
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    Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
    Iranic is not a race. It is an ethno-lingustic group. Iranics are Caucasoids which IS a race. And the jury is still out on whether kurds are an Iranic group. Just because kurdish is an Iranic language does not mean Kurds are an Iranic people.

    Also, it is you who needs to re read things. My point with kurds in turkey wishing to stay as part of turkey and not support the PKK is valid and one which you were too lazy or ignorant to respond back to in an intelligent fashion.

    I told you to read post 39 I already replied to that


    What makes you think Kurds are not Iranic? there are many white Kurds.
    Last edited by kurdman; 06-09-2011, 01:08 PM.

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  • kurdman
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    Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
    So every one living in Armenia, speaking Armenian is Armenian? or Everyone living in Russia, speaking Russian acting Russian etc is Russian?
    Are you just trieng to act stupid or what? you have no evidence while I have plenty, and this is just ridiculous, I don't need to prove to you that Yazidi are Kurds, the majority of them - confused brainwashed ones in Armenia stated their Kurds, so this will stop here.

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