Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Alevi Zaza in Turkey call their lands Zazaistan.

Only a small minority...

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

It would be a start if Kurds were to admit their past crimes and, realising the obscenity that lies behind the name "Kurdistan", chose a different name for their emerging country.

Alevi Zaza in Turkey call their lands Zazaistan.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Israel relies on PKK to destabilize situation in Turkey – Russian expert

14:16 • 11.06.11



Israel has intensified collaboration with the Kurdistan Labor Party (PKK) in an attempt to destabilize the situation in Turkey, a Russian expert has said.

In an article published in the Russian Nezavisimaya Gazeta, Anna Glazova from the Russian Institute of Strategic Research says PKK was particularly active in March.

Citing her article, the Turkish news agency Cihan referred to the Kurdish rebels' armed attack against the motorcade serving Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

The Russian expert claimed that the foreign powers rely on the Kurdish factor to exert pressures upon Ankara, with the United States and Israel acitvely backing such efforts.

The author believes Israel wishes to see other states and ethnic groups in the Middle East and its collaboration with Kurds is targeted at such efforts.

Speaking of the upcoming parliamentary election in Turkey, she further notes that the prime minister-led Justice and Development party has most chances to win. The Russian analyst believes that the ruling party's victory would pave way for the settlement of the Kurdish issue.

http://www.tert.am/en/news/2011/06/11/pkk-israel/

Things like that will only worsen the Kurdish issue, becuase we need support from inside the Islamic word.. i.e. our neighbors and not Israel, don't listen to all the propaganda... if anything Israel helped Turkey against the PKK by supplying them with weapons (unmanned drones) and intelligence.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

I see you are just the same as the Turks, denying what your people did in the past, pretending everything is "good" and the minorities whom you have exterminated, oppressed, raped and killed, are feeling "perfect" under Kurdish control. What's the difference between you and the genocide-denying Turks.

The Iraqi president ordered the massacres. Besides that is in the past, today thousands of Christians from Arab Iraq are fleeing to Kurdistan and receiving housing and other financial support, as I stated before they get all the rights:

1. Language and ethnic group recognised, they are therefore not labeled as Kurds.
- In Turkey, no one other than Turks are recognised, therefore everyone is a Turk.

2. State funded schools that teach in their native language first, then Kurdish.
- In turkey, everyone is forced to learn Turkish regardless of the ethnicity of the group.

3. Equal representation in parliament according to their population % i.e. 11 reserved seats for minorities.
- In turkey they have a 10% threshold and label any opposition part from different ethnicity as 'terrorists' and shut down the party, and eventually support for the party fades away as it gets banned anyway.

4. Government recognizes all the religions therefore any religion can go to the religion and culture ministry and ask for funding, which is why so many churches have been built in Kurdistan.
- In turkey most religions are oppressed.

How are we like the Turks?

[Tigranakert]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Don't pull xxxx our of your ass, the Iraqi government ordered the massacre and it was carried out by Iraqi army, and slemani has always been Kurdistan, the area has not been Assyria for thousands of years, it has however been Kurdistan under several empires, so they have no legitimate claims, besides the idea that they are more related to the ancient Assyrians than anyone else in the region is laughable.

I see you are just the same as the Turks, denying what your people did in the past, pretending everything is "good" and the minorities whom you have exterminated, oppressed, raped and killed, are feeling "perfect" under Kurdish control. What's the difference between you and the genocide-denying Turks.

[Artsakh]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Israel relies on PKK to destabilize situation in Turkey – Russian expert

14:16 • 11.06.11



Israel has intensified collaboration with the Kurdistan Labor Party (PKK) in an attempt to destabilize the situation in Turkey, a Russian expert has said.

In an article published in the Russian Nezavisimaya Gazeta, Anna Glazova from the Russian Institute of Strategic Research says PKK was particularly active in March.

Citing her article, the Turkish news agency Cihan referred to the Kurdish rebels' armed attack against the motorcade serving Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

The Russian expert claimed that the foreign powers rely on the Kurdish factor to exert pressures upon Ankara, with the United States and Israel acitvely backing such efforts.

The author believes Israel wishes to see other states and ethnic groups in the Middle East and its collaboration with Kurds is targeted at such efforts.

Speaking of the upcoming parliamentary election in Turkey, she further notes that the prime minister-led Justice and Development party has most chances to win. The Russian analyst believes that the ruling party's victory would pave way for the settlement of the Kurdish issue.

http://www.tert.am/en/news/2011/06/11/pkk-israel/

[Artsakh]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

stop with the historial, human rights, and other unrelated talk--stick to the topic

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Funny guy, I was not saying that Anatolia was the historical homeland of the Assyrians, it's the region in and around Nothern-Iraq. Just don't try to justify "Kurdistan" by historical "facts", it's only because you are the majority there now that you have the potential to claim these lands, on which you have massacred millions of Christians, destroyed dozens of cultures (or with force make them "Kurd"), in the past.

Don't pull xxxx our of your ass, the Iraqi government ordered the massacre and it was carried out by Iraqi army, and slemani has always been Kurdistan, the area has not been Assyria for thousands of years, it has however been Kurdistan under several empires, so they have no legitimate claims, besides the idea that they are more related to the ancient Assyrians than anyone else in the region is laughable.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Funny guy, assyrians were a minority everywhere in Anatolia, every city either had Kurdish or armenian majority, besides I don't care what borders an empire had thousands of years ago.

Eastern Turkey = Kurdistan and nothing will change that, you better get used to it.

Funny guy, I was not saying that Anatolia was the historical homeland of the Assyrians, it's the region in and around Nothern-Iraq. Just don't try to justify "Kurdistan" by historical "facts", it's only because you are the majority there now that you have the potential to claim these lands, on which you have massacred millions of Christians, destroyed dozens of cultures (or with force make them "Kurd"), in the past.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Funny guy, assyrians were a minority everywhere in Anatolia, every city either had Kurdish or armenian majority, besides I don't care what borders an empire had thousands of years ago.

Eastern Turkey = Kurdistan and nothing will change that, you better get used to it.