Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

[Spetsnaz]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

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July 3, 2015

The Armenian fighter Barkhodan speaking to ARA News in Sere Kaniye, northeastern Syria
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Sere Kaniye, Syria – Dozens of fighters from different nationalities have joined the ranks of the Kurdish forces in Syria and Iraq in order to combat militants of the Islamic State (IS/ISIS).

An Armenian fighter in the ranks of the Kurdish forces of the People’s Protection Units (YPG), nicknamed Barkhodan, came to Syria nearly two years ago and joint the fight against ISIS.

“I am 55 years old, I came to Syria along with 70 Armenian young men, and we joined the ranks of the YPG more than two years ago,” he told ARA News, pointing out that they have been deployed on various positions at battle fronts in accordance with their military expertise.

“We are fighting here in defense of the Armenian people from the risk of IS extremists, we do not differentiate between Arabs, Kurds, Christians and Muslims,” he said.

“The main reason for many foreign fighters to be here (northern Syria) is the necessity to eliminate the enemies of humanity (in reference to ISIS militants).”

“ISIS is killing women and children. What happened in Kobane several days ago when they killed hundreds of innocent people is the biggest motivation for me to fight those barbarians, despite my old age,” Barkhodan told ARA News.

“When we fight alongside the YPG forces, this actually raises the overall morale among Kurds in the war on terrorism,” he added.

In Syria, hundreds of foreign members of the YPG have formed what is known as “Lions of Rojava” (Lions of Syrian Kurdistan). They combat ISIS in several areas in Syria’s Kurdish region alongside Kurdish forces.

Recently, foreign fighters of YPG formed a battalion under the banner “World Freedom” in Sere Kaniye (Ras al-Ain), northeastern Syria, which includes dozens of fighters who were distributed at the anti-ISIS fighting fronts after having completed military training in YPG-held camps.

http://aranews.net/2015/07/70-armeni...n-war-on-isis/

[gokorik]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

We can never establish a official border with Kurds because that would mean we accept Western Armenia as Turkish land.
Right now we do not recognize the borders with Turkey and Azerbaijan. The same must apply to Kurds if such plans go through.

I agree completly if they dont recognize that their northern Kurdistan is also our western Armenian then f em. But to sit here and demand they return all of western Armenia, if they establish a state, is living a little in lala land.

[gokorik]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

@ Artashes

I have no desire to kill the incredibly intelligent kurd peasant.

It wasn't even a week ago you were arguing that a genocide against the Kurds wouldn't be a genocide but justice. The indiscriminant murder of men women and children is your idea of justice..!? LOL! You are insane if you really think that.

I get it, there are/were groups of Kurds who wish to Kurdify Armenian land, destroy any evidence of our ancestors but my argument is does that give you the right to indiscriminately kill all of them? Again you're saying that it does. WTF!

Haven't the Persians, over the centuries, comited those very crimes you talk about? Destroying cemeteries, killing Armenians, occupying Old Armenia. So do you think we should comit a genocide against the them? What about the Arabs. Where's this mentality take us?

If there was a Kurd, Arab or whatever infront of me and I knew they killed an Armenian because he or she was Armenian or Christian, then that person deserves to die. But if you bring me his/her child and tell me he/she deserves to die because of what their parents did, I'd tell you to F yourself because the kid hasn't done anything but be born to a murderer. And here you are, trying to yell to the 4 corners of the world that all Kurds are dirty guilty subhuman deserving only to be justly murdered.. facepalm

Don't think I'm presenting my point adequately .
Let me just say ... Something doesn't sound right with your argument .

Not sure what you think isn't right about my post but instead of beating around the bush just call me out on whatever conspiracy you've cooked up in your head. What? You think im a Kurd? Lol i don't care if you do.

[Eddo211]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

We can never establish a official border with Kurds because that would mean we accept Western Armenia as Turkish land.
Right now we do not recognize the borders with Turkey and Azerbaijan. The same must apply to Kurds if such plans go through.

[Artashes]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Prospects of a Kurdish state means nothing for Armenia, Prospects of Artsakh means a lot !!!!!!!!

Prospects of a Kurdish state means nothing to you. You don't speak for all of Armenia.
Prospects of a fraudulent kurdish state in western Armenia propagated by Kurds or anyone else who thinks the people who actually lived there till they were murdered (RECENTLY) means everything to Armenia.

So there's two different takes on reality.

Only Artsakh ... Only the here and now.
Means nothing ***** quote ***** to Armenians about what happened for --------- CENTURIES --------////
Hey armynia , your full of crap.

[Armynia]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Prospects of a Kurdish state means nothing for Armenia, Prospects of Artsakh means a lot !!!!!!!!

[Artashes]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Clearly this is kurd initiated " news".
Every reference to western Armenia is referred to as --- north kurdistan ---.
How about the reference to the Van district as north kurdville ?
Did you get the reference to the sanctity of their cemetery?
Is there even --- ONE ARMENIAN CEMETARY --- in !!!!!!! ANY !!!!!!!! Of the over ***** THREE THOUSAND VILLAGES ******* that are now ?????? OCCUPIED ??????? By kurds that have (even one) CEMETARY that has been shown respect ?
Anyone know of even one ?

Just in case anybody missed the question...

Does anyone from anywhere know of even one of the over three thousand (3,000 +++ ) Armenian villages that are now occupied by almost exclusively kurds that has an Armenian CEMETARY that hasn't been abused or destroyed???

[Artashes]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Actions by HPG guerrillas continue

Wednesday, August 19, 2015

BEHDINAN - ANF

People's Defense Forces Press Office HPG-BIM reported in a written statement that guerrillas continued their actions in North Kurdistan in response to the ongoing attacks by the Turkish army.

As part of the Martyr Reşit Serdar Initiative, guerrillas conducted an action against the police station in Şemdinli district of Hakkari at 13:30 on August 17. While the casualties couldn't be verified, Turkish army intervened the scene and attempted an intervention but the soldiers in armored vehicles were hit and forced to retreat by guerrillas.

Troops in a number of armored vehicles attempted to launch an operation against the guerrillas who took the road between Şemdinli and its Şapatan village under their control at 05:00 on August 18. Clashes broke out at the scene as guerrillas hit the Turkish units with heavy weapons, as a result of which 9 soldiers were killed.

HPG guerrilla Azad Yiğit, nom de guerre Baz Faraşin, from Hakkari fell a martyr in the clashes here.

Turkish military on the other hand bombed the Şapatan village with howitzer, mortar and tank fire, which damaged around 10 houses damaged and four civilians injured.

HPG said clashes erupted as youths responded to the Turkish troops that attempted to enter the Turgut Özal neighborhood in Şırnak's Hezex (İdil) district in 10 armored vehicles at 01:00 on August 17 night. Guerrillas intervened the scene and targeted 3 armored vehicles with rockets at 03:30. While the casualties couldn't be verified, the troops retreated from the area after the intervention by guerrillas.

In another action by Martyr Mehmet Goyi team in the province of Van, guerrillas targeted three policemen standing near an armored vehicle in Yeni neighborhood at 20:00 on August 15. Two policemen were heavily injured in the action after which Turkish army opened random fire on the neighborhood till the morning hours.

The road between Karakoçan and Kewê areas of Elazığ was taken under control of guerrillas between 18:00 and 19:30 on August 18. Guerrillas stopped 100 vehicles here, performed ID checks and informed the people about the current process.

Turkish military forces attempted to enter the Martyr Ronahi and Martyr İsmail Cemetery of guerrillas in Varto district of Muş at 05:00 on August 19. After Cobra type helicopters shelled the surrounding area of the cemetery, a military convoy heading towards the scene was effectively hit by guerrillas with heavy weapons. Turkish troops had to retreat from the area upon the action by guerrillas and the arrival of local people at the scene to act as human shields and protect the cemetery.

Guerrillas blocked a road between Bitlis and its Hizan district and spread propaganda to the people about the process at 19:00 on August 18, and ended the action at 20:30.

An action by guerrillas targeted the Teterozê guard post in Zorava village of Ağrı's Bazid (Doğubayazıt) district on August 17. Casualties of the Turkish army couldn't be verified.

Guerrillas sabotaged and destroyed a base station of two private GSM operators in Xarıkê village of Bazid at 09:00 on August 18.

Guerrillas blocked the road between Dersim and its Ovacık district and performed ID checks from 19:00 on August 18 to 06:00 on August 19.

Guerrillas also blocked the road between Dersim and Erzincan and performed ID checks from 19:30 on August 18 to 06:00 on August 19.

HPG provided the following ID information of three guerrillas who were, as previously announced, martyred in a clash with Turkish troops near the Karakale village located between Digor district of Kars and Kağızman district of Erzurum on August 16.

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Nom de Guerre: Erdal (Çavreş) Agıri

Name-Surname: Harun Yıldırım

Place of Birth: Ağrı

Parents' Names: Suna – Yüksel

Date and Place of Death: 16 August 2015 / Kars

***

Nom de Guerre: Hejar Sarkamış

Name-Surname: Mustafa Aydın

Place of Birth: Kars

Date and Place of Death: 16 August 2015 / Kars

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Nom de Guerre: Helê Merivan

Name-Surname: Raim Hacızade

Place of Birth: Merivan

Parents' Names: Feride – Sıdık

Date and Place of Death: 16 August 2015 / Kars

Clearly this is kurd initiated " news".
Every reference to western Armenia is referred to as --- north kurdistan ---.
How about the reference to the Van district as north kurdville ?
Did you get the reference to the sanctity of their cemetery?
Is there even --- ONE ARMENIAN CEMETARY --- in !!!!!!! ANY !!!!!!!! Of the over ***** THREE THOUSAND VILLAGES ******* that are now ?????? OCCUPIED ??????? By kurds that have (even one) CEMETARY that has been shown respect ?
Anyone know of even one ?

[Vrej1915]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Actions by HPG guerrillas continue

Wednesday, August 19, 2015

BEHDINAN - ANF

People's Defense Forces Press Office HPG-BIM reported in a written statement that guerrillas continued their actions in North Kurdistan in response to the ongoing attacks by the Turkish army.

As part of the Martyr Reşit Serdar Initiative, guerrillas conducted an action against the police station in Şemdinli district of Hakkari at 13:30 on August 17. While the casualties couldn't be verified, Turkish army intervened the scene and attempted an intervention but the soldiers in armored vehicles were hit and forced to retreat by guerrillas.

Troops in a number of armored vehicles attempted to launch an operation against the guerrillas who took the road between Şemdinli and its Şapatan village under their control at 05:00 on August 18. Clashes broke out at the scene as guerrillas hit the Turkish units with heavy weapons, as a result of which 9 soldiers were killed.

HPG guerrilla Azad Yiğit, nom de guerre Baz Faraşin, from Hakkari fell a martyr in the clashes here.

Turkish military on the other hand bombed the Şapatan village with howitzer, mortar and tank fire, which damaged around 10 houses damaged and four civilians injured.

HPG said clashes erupted as youths responded to the Turkish troops that attempted to enter the Turgut Özal neighborhood in Şırnak's Hezex (İdil) district in 10 armored vehicles at 01:00 on August 17 night. Guerrillas intervened the scene and targeted 3 armored vehicles with rockets at 03:30. While the casualties couldn't be verified, the troops retreated from the area after the intervention by guerrillas.

In another action by Martyr Mehmet Goyi team in the province of Van, guerrillas targeted three policemen standing near an armored vehicle in Yeni neighborhood at 20:00 on August 15. Two policemen were heavily injured in the action after which Turkish army opened random fire on the neighborhood till the morning hours.

The road between Karakoçan and Kewê areas of Elazığ was taken under control of guerrillas between 18:00 and 19:30 on August 18. Guerrillas stopped 100 vehicles here, performed ID checks and informed the people about the current process.

Turkish military forces attempted to enter the Martyr Ronahi and Martyr İsmail Cemetery of guerrillas in Varto district of Muş at 05:00 on August 19. After Cobra type helicopters shelled the surrounding area of the cemetery, a military convoy heading towards the scene was effectively hit by guerrillas with heavy weapons. Turkish troops had to retreat from the area upon the action by guerrillas and the arrival of local people at the scene to act as human shields and protect the cemetery.

Guerrillas blocked a road between Bitlis and its Hizan district and spread propaganda to the people about the process at 19:00 on August 18, and ended the action at 20:30.

An action by guerrillas targeted the Teterozê guard post in Zorava village of Ağrı's Bazid (Doğubayazıt) district on August 17. Casualties of the Turkish army couldn't be verified.

Guerrillas sabotaged and destroyed a base station of two private GSM operators in Xarıkê village of Bazid at 09:00 on August 18.

Guerrillas blocked the road between Dersim and its Ovacık district and performed ID checks from 19:00 on August 18 to 06:00 on August 19.

Guerrillas also blocked the road between Dersim and Erzincan and performed ID checks from 19:30 on August 18 to 06:00 on August 19.

HPG provided the following ID information of three guerrillas who were, as previously announced, martyred in a clash with Turkish troops near the Karakale village located between Digor district of Kars and Kağızman district of Erzurum on August 16.

***

Nom de Guerre: Erdal (Çavreş) Agıri

Name-Surname: Harun Yıldırım

Place of Birth: Ağrı

Parents' Names: Suna – Yüksel

Date and Place of Death: 16 August 2015 / Kars

***

Nom de Guerre: Hejar Sarkamış

Name-Surname: Mustafa Aydın

Place of Birth: Kars

Date and Place of Death: 16 August 2015 / Kars

***

Nom de Guerre: Helê Merivan

Name-Surname: Raim Hacızade

Place of Birth: Merivan

Parents' Names: Feride – Sıdık

Date and Place of Death: 16 August 2015 / Kars

[Eddo211]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

The smell will kill us.

Seriously.....it is a smart move by Turkey to put Kurds between us if they succeed.