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  • Originally posted by Otto
    this pan turanism thing is not on the rise i tell you... i am here....
    That is because you live in the beautiful sea-side city of Izmir (Smyrna) and haven't a care in the worlld!

    Obvioulsy these concepts are not everyday discussion from everyday people - however the ethnic & racially based issues are now more discussed in Turkey - as (for example) I saw 2 years ago with Kurds much more openly proclaiming themselves and their culture then when I had visited 10 years before. Also 10 + years ago very many Turks in Turkey I spoke to were excited about the newly independent Turkic nations of central asia and the (future) role of Turkey as leading a new Empire (essentially) with them included and that the greatness of the Turks would rise again - and so on. This attitude has been acted on by Turkish leaders through broadcasts of Turkish language/Turkish made programs to these nations and through other efforts. ANd more recently we see more expressions from many Turks along these (racial and Empire based) lines.

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    • [QUOTE=winoman]That is because you live in the beautiful sea-side city of Izmir (Smyrna) and haven't a care in the worlld!

      thats close enugh

      yesterday on the newspaper i saw apicture of a Uzbek (uzbekistan or Ozbekistan) military jeep with a Turkish flag painted on the door...officials told Uzbegs to remove it (something is cooking) They dont tell us about supporting Turkic countries ... Also Russia had been complainig about Turkish support to Chechens (i dont know that in english) ...so i suppose you are right


      ( secretly thinks about winoman as a field agent collecting data)
      Last edited by Otto; 05-25-2005, 11:33 AM.

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      • Originally posted by Otto
        ( secretly thinks about winoman as a field agent collecting data)
        Always, of course...just picture me with Raki bottle in hand dishing out premium American smokes and just shooting the breeze with various talkative Turks!

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        • First, we get an apology. Then, we hit them for reparations. Then, when they least expect it, we get our lands back and destroy Turkey. Afterwards, we will make Turkish survivors, if any, learn Greek or Armenian and accept Christ as their lord and saviour.
          Last edited by Armenian; 05-25-2005, 06:42 PM.
          Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

          Նժդեհ


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          • Originally posted by Armenian
            First, we get an apology. Then, we hit them for reparations. Then, when they least expect it, we get our lands back and destroy Turkey. Afterwards, we will make Turkish survivors, if any, learn Greek or Armenian and accept Christ as their lord and saviour.
            Well thank you for playing right into their hands. How can you protest genocide and yet advocate it at the same time? What's even more laughable is because you know we aren't able to destroy Turkey, so any Turk coming accross this outrageous post would just laugh at it. The last part about converting them... I find it disgusting. I despite others trying to convert me to their religions, so I don't see it our business to force others to become another religion. And your line about "accepting Christ as their lord and saviour" comes right from the books of the born-agains, a "group" I get REALLY annoyed by.

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            • Originally posted by IAmMadAtAC
              Well thank you for playing right into their hands.
              You are most welcome.

              How can you protest genocide and yet advocate it at the same time?
              I don't protest Genocide, I advocate revenge.

              What's even more laughable is because you know we aren't able to destroy Turkey, so any Turk coming accross this outrageous post would just laugh at it.
              We dont need to destroy Turkey, it will self-destruct. Moroever, Turks actually laugh at people like you.

              The last part about converting them... I find it disgusting. I despite others trying to convert me to their religions, so I don't see it our business to force others to become another religion. And your line about "accepting Christ as their lord and saviour" comes right from the books of the born-agains, a "group" I get REALLY annoyed by.
              Christ is the light of mankind, he is our lord and Saviour and all who reject him shall die - spiritually.

              During the First World War, Turks had a chance to get rid of the aboriginal Christian poulation of Anatolia and they did - it was in their national interest to do so. There will come a time, however, when Turkey will fall apart - because it is an artificial nation hated by all built upon the bones of millions of Greeks and Armenians. And when that day comes, revenge will be sweet.

              Some "friendly" Turks (perhaps those with Armenian and Greek blood) can live, as long as they learn Greek or Armenian - and accept Christ as their lord.

              Khaghaghoutyoun Amenetsoun
              Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

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              • I protest "Armenian" being allowed to call himself such on this forum.

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                • Originally posted by winoman
                  I protest "Armenian" being allowed to call himself such on this forum.
                  I protest you calling yourself a human.

                  I have told you this before, go and have a "butt party" in Istanbul, stop polluting this discusion board.
                  Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

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                  • Originally posted by Armenian
                    I protest you calling yourself a human.

                    I have told you this before, go and have a "butt party" in Istanbul, stop polluting this discusion board.
                    I take this comment of yours as seriously as I take all the rest of the garbage you post and I am sure other forumers agree with me.

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                    • I think Turkey should compensate the 10,000 Kurds it killed during 1984 to 2000 done by the Turkish army, according to Genocidewatch.org

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