Elections in Armenia

[Virgil]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

And, your point is?

His point is, when you have a billionare that is in the business of destabilizing and shaping the world in his image, the events in Armenia, thus, don't really stem from the people, but rather, they stem from third parties that have different interests and motives for the Armenian people. Soros needs to take this opinions and funds to Israel, Turkey, and Azerbaijan.

[Noosh]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Well said. Most intellegent thing I have read all night.

[Armanen]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

His point is, when you have a billionare that is in the business of destabilizing and shaping the world in his image, the events in Armenia, thus, don't really stem from the people, but rather, they stem from third parties that have different interests and motives for the Armenian people. Soros needs to take this opinions and funds to Israel, Turkey, and Azerbaijan.

Yes indeed, and this is what is meant by calling levin a tool of a tool.

freaky once again showed his lack of understanding of the so called "color revolutions", and what there real purpose is, which is not democracy.

THE PRE-CONDITIONS ARE PRESENT IN ARMENIA, HOWEVER THERE IS NO REASON FOR "VELVET REVOLUTION"

YEREVAN, JANUARY 10, ARMINFO. Pre-conditions are present in Armenia, however, there is no reason for "velvet revolution", said member of RA National Assembly, politologist Amayak Ovanessian in the interview with the correspondent of ARMINFO, commenting on the statement of editor-in-chief of Russian Service of BBC Konstantin Eggert referring to that Armenia will be the first state after the Ukraine where the "velvet revolution" will take place.

A. Ovanessian noted that the hard social-economic conditions of the people, the falsification of results of presidential and parliamentary elections' in 2003, as well as the high level of corruption and shadow economy could be called as pre-conditions for implementation of "velvet revolution" in Armenia.

The only fact that in Armenia the "velvet revolution" have not taken place yet is explained only with the weakness of Armenian opposition. However, the post-soviet states bear a great resemblance to each other and processes occurred in these countries, on the principle of communicating vessels, "flow" from one state into another, noted A. Ovanessian. "If the level of democracy and social welfare in the post-soviet states is high enough, George Soros with his money never can do a revolution there. It is not necessary to underestimate the factor of people ever",- Armenian deputy empathized.

http://felist.com/archive/media.arminfo/200501/10232035.html

[Alex deLarge]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Noosh, I suspect that the majority of pro-government posters in this thread are pajama pundits with little if any life experience.

The UN and other humanitarian organizations are asking for the state of emergency to be lifted and despite conflicting reports of what happened, the government forces cleared the square at 7:00 a.m. and eyewitness claimed they were beating people, one of the businesses burnt down was apparently owned by an opposition PM and masked officers were seen firing into the crowd. Notwithstanding any of the reports that the protesters were armed, I have not seen one report where the protesters were firing on the RA forces.

And, when 100, 1000 or 10000 people gather to petition their government by assembling peacefully to protest peacefully, it would be very easy for the powers that be to put NSS agents or other RA officers in the crowd in civilian clothes to start a feigned riot to garner a forceful response from the authorities.

Removing an imperfect media and placing the country under what appears to be temporary martial law does not alleviate the strain on the country or its leaders, it actually looks like they are trying to quash petitioning against the government and buy time to cover up what they did and whats been done, if anything. If they had nothing to hide, why the censorship, why the emergency.

The government is apparently as immature as Armenian, Virgil and their Axis of Stupidity. When they don't like what they hear and see, the respond violently or venomously.

Have any of the people who have been detained including government officials been charged and arraigned yet? offered bail? been advised of their rights including a right to an attorney? spoken to an attorney? or, are they being bloodied in a backroom by a Soviet butcher?

Opposition caught smuggling arms.

CNN video:

http://ditord.wordpress.com/2008/03/04/bloody-sunday-8-people-dead-names-known-rip/

[Alex deLarge]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Umm, if 53% of the population who voted did so for Serge and 47% of the voting population voted for opponents, then its a lot more than 100,000 that are not supporting Serge.

We do not know who destroyed what or who started what. Depending on who you speak to and who reported it, the story is in conflict. The confrontation occurred at Liberty Square and in front of the French Embassy. The whole city was not in chaos.

http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2008/02/BDEC5619-C9DD-4847-AC5B-76C459F7400D.html

http://www.armtown.com/news/en/yer/20080303/851/

The LTP opposition "movement" is ALONE.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

What? So, now the pundits here are blaming George Soros for seeking to cause a revolution in the RA.

What a bunch of moonbat conspiracy generating nutters there are on this board.

Did you ever think that NSS could have planted people in the opposition protesters to wave the Israeli flag?

That is possible, isn't it?

If foreigners are responsible for attempting to mobilize a soft revolution, then Kocharyan is as responsible for not foreseeing that event and taking advance precautions as LTP may be for promoting it.

[Armanen]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Thursday Feb 28

The COLOR of REVOLUTION : Orange Revolution in Iran


We are two weeks away from elections in Iran. Many events happening on the streets in Iran show similarity with steps in a "Orange Revolution". Are we witnessing an Orange Revolution in Iran? Actually Orange Revolution did happen in Armenia just last week with thousands of people arrested and Orange Revolution ended in failure. A Russian spokesman officially announced the failure of the "Orange Revolution" and stated the US had backed off in Armenia.

What is an "Orange Revolution"?? It is a scheme by George Soros and Liberals in US to bring pro-western elite to power in target countries. "Orange Revolution" has been tried in Ukraine, Georgia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgistan and other countries. Some have led to failure and some has succeeded such as in Ukraine and Georgia.

Orange Revolution is a combination of "civil disobediance" "youth generation" and "pro-western elite in the state apparatus" and extensive use of "internet and cell phone technology" to remove the old elite and bring a fully pro-western elite into power.
Understanding the methods of "Orange Revolution" it seems the insect cartoon against Azeris in Iran in May 2006 was actually a provocation by Mr. Ahamdinejad according to his Pan Turk agenda to bring Azeris on the street and presenting them as an "oppressed minority" in Iran. The Republic of Azerbaijan demanded at the time that Iran stops "Persian Racism" by the Persians in Tehran against Azeris. Just to recall that %70-%80 of Tehranis are Azeri Turks and the whole regime is controlled by Azeri Turks!!!!

Also according to some reports Mr. Ahmadinejad has asked his Pan Turk supporters to drop Aryanism from their agenda if it is appropriate. This is probably due to anticipation that alliance with the royal family may not work and Mr. Ahamdinejad may have to do a sharp turn into pure Pan Turkism.

There are also signs that Turkey is the next target for the Orange Revolution. The following is a description of "orange revolution" methods and techniques.

Orange Revolution Methodology

The model of the orange revolution run by Zbig and Mark Brzezinski in Ukraine is the key to understanding what was attempted in New Hampshire. Methods that the Brzezinskis, the George Soros Open Society Foundation and their helpers at the US National Endowment for Democracy (NED, also known as Project Democracy) have perfected overseas are now being brought home to promote the Brzezinski agenda and continue the line of stolen elections from 2000, 2002, and 2004.

Mob rule, what the Greeks called ochlocracy, is the essence of the color revolution or people power coup. The modern theoretical basis of these mob coups has been provided by the writings of a certain Gene Sharp. In order to carry out a color revolution, large sums of money are required to pay bribes and buy support. Beyond that, the following ingredients are necessary:

1. Media.

It is essential to control the key television channels, or at least one major network. In less developed societies, a well-known radio station might suffice, but here in the US it takes a broadcast network and one or more cable networks, backed up by news magazines, daily newspapers, and various internet sites. These organs must attempt to create a collective hysteria or mania in the whole society in favor of the people power coup. In Iowa and New Hampshire, the media swoon was led by NBC/MSNBC, but included most of the networks, plus Newsweek, the Boston and New York tabloids, and many others. Obama was fawned over by George Will, David Broder, Robert Novak, and many other columnists, including those with markedly right wing profiles.

2. Rent-a-mobs.

More here:

http://adolphahmadi.blogspot.com/

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/iran/T6PQ3UBSH5L58KNFP

[Fedayeen]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Listen gyot, next time to are in New York please get in touch with me, I promise you will bash your xxxxing skull in regardless of repercussions.

Stop with the stupid personal attacks because nobody cares.

You are the biggest douche bag on this forum. I don't know why are you still here with your spamming bullxxxx.

And please do something more productive with you time other then spending all your time on internet forums. You might actually achieve something

[Armanen]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Why so now the pundits here are blaming George Soros for seeking to cause a revolution in the RA. What about of moonbat conspiracy generating nutters there are on this board.

It is easy to attach a label to the articles posted but not provide any reasoning behind your judgment. However, I think if you pulled your head out of your a**, you would maybe see that this is a bigger issue than some poor saps in Yerevan who want to oust the current administration.

Yet time and again you have shown yourself to be a dumba**, so I do not hold out hope for you.

[Armanen]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Stop with the stupid personal attacks because nobody cares.

You are the biggest douche bag on this forum. I don't know why are you still here with your spamming bullxxxx.

And please do something more productive with you time other then spending all your time on internet forums. You might actually achieve something

Stop spreading your anti Armenian rants, at least Armenian posts something corresponding to the truth, where as you and others like you post the rumors that you hear from your cousins, grandma's, brother's, daughter in Yerevan.


Educate yourself and stop being a tool.