Elections in Armenia

[HayotzAmrotz]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

General Assembly Hall 14 March 2008 – The General Assembly today adopted a resolution on the Nagorno-Karabakh region of Azerbaijan in which it called for the immediate, complete and unconditional withdrawal of Armenian forces “from all the occupied territories of the Republic of Azerbaijan.” With 39 votes in favour, seven against and 100 abstentions, the Assembly adopted a text that also called for “continued respect and support for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Republic of Azerbaijan within its internationally recognized borders.”

39 countries which voted IN FAVOUR: Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Brunei Darussalam, Cambodia, Colombia, Comoros, Djibouti, Gambia, Georgia, Indonesia, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Libya, Malaysia, Maldives, Moldova, Morocco, Myanmar, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Turkey, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Yemen

7 counties which voted AGAINST: USA, Russia, France, India, Armenia, Angola and Vanuatu.

100 counties which ABSTAINED: United Kingdom, Israel, China, Albania, Algeria, Egypt, Kazakhstan, Liberia, Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Bulgaria, Cameroon, Canada, Chile, , Congo, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Madagascar, Malta, Mauritius, Mexico, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Korea, Romania, Saint Lucia, Samoa, San Marino, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Solomon Islands, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Suriname, Swaziland, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Uruguay, Venezuela, Zambia. Kenya, Latvia.

[HayotzAmrotz]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

xxxx Levon and every single one of his supporters/followers. This development in the UN is because of him... LTP Must Hang!

And guess what?

The Azeris are already talking about this resolution as a licence to start a war!

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

39 countries which voted IN FAVOUR: Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Brunei Darussalam, Cambodia, Colombia, Comoros, Djibouti, Gambia, Georgia, Indonesia, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Libya, Malaysia, Maldives, Moldova, Morocco, Myanmar, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Turkey, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Yemen

7 counties which voted AGAINST: USA, Russia, France, India, Armenia, Angola and Vanuatu.

100 counties which ABSTAINED: United Kingdom, Israel, China, Albania, Algeria, Egypt, Kazakhstan, Liberia, Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Bulgaria, Cameroon, Canada, Chile, , Congo, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Madagascar, Malta, Mauritius, Mexico, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Korea, Romania, Saint Lucia, Samoa, San Marino, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Solomon Islands, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Suriname, Swaziland, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Uruguay, Venezuela, Zambia. Kenya, Latvia.

No country with real power voted in favour the most powerful voted against it so this means nothing nothing at all. And the security council can still veto it if it really is needed

[Lucin]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

It's weird to see the US voted against the resolution...

xxxx Levon and every single one of his supporters/followers. This development in the UN is because of him... LTP Must Hang!

Looking back at Levon's pre-electoral campaign and his anti- Artsakh rhetoric in those early days, I remember watching one of his appearances where he points out how "Armenia cannot afford supporting Artsakh on different levels and at the same time rebuild its own economic infrastructure", and how "Armenia does not have the resources to fight on 'two' fronts"… So, it all makes perfect sense to me now... From "Arstakh being an economic burden on Armenia" to the "Karbakh clan", all seemed to be well calculated.
It is shocking to see that it was mainly his anti-Artsakh rhetoric that attracted more people.

[Virgil]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

It's weird to see the US voted against the resolution...

Look at the proxy states of US, UK, and France, you will find your answer there.

[Armenian]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Get involved. Fax or email the following to various embassies and/or organization.

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Levon Ter Petrosian Must be Punished!

The treasonous criminal Levon Ter Petrosian and his team of bloody usurpers need to be punished for their crimes against the Armenian state. We expect to see Levon Ter Petrosian and his team imprisoned for life, exiled or executed for their crimes. President Robert Kocharyan waited far too long to crack down the masses of absolute idiots pursuing suicidal political agendas. If Armenia is to be respected as a viable nation serious about protecting its national interests, every single one of the organizers of last weekend's failed coup d'etat need to be imprisoned, deported or executed for treason against the state. There can be no sane excuses for supporting a treasonous criminal like the turkophile Levon Ter Petrosian, especially after having observed eight years of his corrupt and ruinous presidency. If the Armenian electorate was dissatisfied with Serzh Sargsyan they should have given their support to any of the other presidential candidates - not Levon Ter Petrosian. Sadly, a significant portion of the Armenian nation today has revealed severe political immaturity and social irresponsibility. Consequently, a significant portion of Armenia’s citizenry has revealed that they are unable to govern themselves via democratic means.

Nevertheless, we expect the Armenian state to:

Ruthlessly crush the bloody rebellion and severely punish its leadership.

Summon the Russian FSB to help hunt down and eliminate anyone involved in the funding and/or the organization of this attempted coup d'etat.

Shut-down western funded anti-state media outlets such as A1 Plus, Hetq, Armenianow and Radio Liberty.

Subject to closure various NGOs in Yerevan that are engaged in anti-state activities.

Deport foreign agents such as Onnik Krokorian and Richard Giragosian back to where they came from.

Deport the brainless pig Raffi Hovanisian back to his stinking hole in California.

Up hold the rule of law and order in Armenia.

Protect at all costs the territorial integrity of Armenia and Artsakh.

Protect at all costs Armenia's alliance with the Russian Federation.

Serzh Sargsyan's presidency will be judged by whether or not he is able to eradicate the HHSh party within the Armenian Republic. The HHSh party is a cancer in Armenia serving American and Turkish interests. This dangerous cancer needs to be eradicated as soon as possible.

Signed,

Concerned Armenians

[Armenian]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

ARMENIA UNDER SIEGE

Ever since independence, Armenia’s main asset has been its internal stability. And every external and internal force has threatened to destabilize the country to get its agenda promoted. At every such crisis, brinkmanship has played a role, until sober heads have prevailed to avert a catastrophe. In the aftermath of the February 19 presidential election, those sober heads were not around to be found and the catastrophe took place with unforeseen consequences for long time to come. Indeed Kocharian’s government and opposition leader Levon Ter-Petrossian were at loggerheads, expecting the other party to blink, which was not to happen. At this time, a government-imposed state of emergency has turned into an internal siege for Armenia’s population, while an external siege is being configured by outside forces, unfortunately aided by internal desperate voices. A tremendous amount of damage has already been caused by the loss of human lives, but that is only the beginning in a rapidly deteriorating crisis.

As anticipated, Azerbaijan has raised the ante by attacking the Armenian positions in the Martakert region of Karabagh, certainly encouraged and emboldened by the internal turmoil in Armenia. This is a loss of wills across the lines of the ceasefire, and a more dangerous escalation of hostilities may be in the offing, if the war planners in Baku determine that the Armenian government is too weak to retaliate to a major onslaught.

While countries, like Azerbaijan, can get away with murder, because of the oil factor or strategic advantage, Western powers are quick to admonish Armenia with impunity, at the first sign of any infraction. And that may have long-term political and economic impact on the country. The chorus of external condemnations has already begun, with a spark from none other than the former president and recently-defeated presidential candidate, Levon Ter Petrossian. Indeed, on March 5, an op-ed article signed by the first president appeared in the Washington Post and subsequently circulated in the news media. Of course, no one would like to see a state of emergency imposed in Armenia, crippling the normal course of life, but Ter Petrossian himself must be the last one to complain about it, since in 1990 he was the one who ordered armored cars to crush the demonstrations, following rigged elections. If his actions were justified at that time, what other alternative was left to the present government to calm the situation?

But what is more dangerous is to invite foreign governments to interfere in the internal situation of the country and use their leverage to warn the government against its antidemocratic actions. Besides the political pressures, the most effective ways for the regional or world powers is to use their economic leverage, on which hinges Armenia’s lifeline and the future.

The European Union has many grants, but the most significant aid comes from the US through its annual aid package, which is already dwindling from year to year. But what is most dangerous is the Millennium Challenge project, which is contingent upon Armenia’s democratic process and economic reform. That is the most effective weapon in the arsenal of the Bush administration, which is significantly delaying to recognize the election results and congratulate the new president. Ter-Petrossian blames the West for "the deafening silence," all the while criticizing the OSCE observers for approving the election results. He further appeals to the US government by asking a particular action. "What do the people of Armenia expect from the West, and the United States in particular? At the very least, we expect a strong and unequivocal condemnation of the violence that occurred on March 1… This condemnation should accompany a sternwarning…"

Ter-Petrossian’s popularity is not in question here, nor would any one try to applaud the emergency role. But what is very serious is to appeal to outside forces, which are looking for any pretext to tighten the noose around Armenia and strangulate it economically. The US and Russia have a confrontational posture in the Southern Caucasus and the Cold War era is returning to that region. Armenia’s cordial ties with Russia and economic relations with Iran are not looked upon favorably in Washington, despite the assurances that the US administration "understands" the underlying causes of those relations. When push comes to shove, Armenia’s lobbying power in the US may easily be overrun. Two days later, Ter-Petrossian’s request from the US is echoed in a nasty editorial on March 7, in the New York Times, under the heading "Dark Days in Armenia." It is significant to note that Turkey’s brutal war against the Kurdish minority, which has caused 40,000 deaths has not yet deserved that kind of characterization in the editorial columns of the Times.

The Times editorial specifically addresses the most vulnerable aspect of the US-Armenian relations: "Armenia, embroiled in a lengthy standoff with neighboring Azerbaijan, is relatively isolated in its own region and especially values its great relations with the United States," according to the editorial. It then talks about inviting the Bush administration to hit where it hurts most: "the main responsibility lies with Armenia’s government leaders, and it is to them that the White House must address its protests." And of course we know the nature of these "protests;" to deny beleaguered Armenia economic help. The continuation of the crisis is to no one’s advantage and it will damage Armenia irreparably, which had just begun to give signals of economic recovery.

The crisis can only be resolved internally by engaging opposing domestic groups. Any outside interference may only further exacerbate the already tense situation and lead nowhere. In addition to media orchestration, rallies are being organized on the West Coast to amplify the media furor and to damage Armenia’s standing in the political arena. The protests are mainly organized by expatriates, driven mostly by the guilt feeling of having abandoned the homeland. The same masses of expatriates were vehemently against Ter- Petrossian, when he was in power. It is time to sober up to stop undermining the foundations of Armenia’s statehood and denying its population direly needed economic recovery. Armenians seem to be their worst enemies.

Source: http://www.azg.am/EN/2008031402

[Armenian]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

The following individuals are the main ringleaders of bloody coup d'etat attempt in Yerevan. After what they did, at the very least, these bastards have to be executed, or jailed for life, for their crimes against the Armenian state. These types of filthy criminals are a cancer in the nation, they have to be eliminated now before they are able to pose a serious security risk to the republic.

Levon Petrosian



Alexander Arzumanian



Aram Sargsyan



Khachatur Sukiasian



Nikol Pashinian



Stepan Demirchian



Manvel Grigoryan



I strongly advise you all to watch the following news report from Yerevan in its entirety:

Երևան. մանրամասն մարտի մեկի իրադարձությունների մասին :

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQlXx...eature=related

2):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU__v...eature=related

3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccYoo...eature=related

4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tI2E...eature=related

[Armenian]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Looking back at Levon's pre-electoral campaign and his anti- Artsakh rhetoric in those early days, I remember watching one of his appearances where he points out how "Armenia cannot afford supporting Artsakh on different levels and at the same time rebuild its own economic infrastructure", and how "Armenia does not have the resources to fight on 'two' fronts"… So, it all makes perfect sense to me now... From "Arstakh being an economic burden on Armenia" to the "Karbakh clan", all seemed to be well calculated. It is shocking to see that it was mainly his anti-Artsakh rhetoric that attracted more people.

Lucin jan, although Armenians are choosing not to openly talking about it, Levon's entire movement was primarily based on anti-Artsakh rhetoric, feeding the anti-Artsakh sentiments of Armenia's poor and uneducated. Due to Levon and his petty demons Turks have now seen the fruit of their anti-Armenia policies have ripened, they have seen that their blockade and their hostility towards Armenia is having a major effect upon a significant portion of the nation's population. The short term and longterm dangers associated with Levon's movement cannot be overemphasized. The damage his movement has created cannot be overstated. Unless, the Armenian authorities totally eliminate the HHSh party within Armenia, imprison, deport or execute every single one of the individuals involved in Levon's movement there will be a strong risk of Armenia becoming a failed state. What's more, I have to say that the authorities must begin paying more attention to the country's poor. Without unemployed hungry idiots in the streets no one would be able to foment unrest...

Look at the proxy states of US, UK, and France, you will find your answer there.

That's a very good point. Why should they get their hands dirty when they have their little demons around the world more than willing to do their dirty work?

[Lucin]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Look at the proxy states of US, UK, and France, you will find your answer there.

I see your point but note that the US voted against the resolution. So there could be more validity to your point, had she remained neutral or not voted at all.

What's more, I have to say that the authorities must begin paying more attention to the country's poor. Without unemployed hungry idiots in the streets no one would be able to foment unrest...

Perhaps, by giving hand-outs and 'loans' to a certain strata as a temporary solution??? This is exactly how Ahmadinejad gained the poor's votes to become president and just yesterday the majority parliamentary votes...

Anyway, considering his past achievements (which nobody takes into consideration) during a very sensitive and volatile period of Armenia's history, Sarkissian has proved to have a strong character, sharpness, shrewdness and could even be more firm and tougher than President Kocharian. So yes, I do have faith in him and hope he will not have to face some undesirable 'impediments' and will work under the same tranquil conditions (relatively) as Kocharian...