Armenian cognates w/other languages

[yerazhishda]

Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

Russian/Armenian cognates (loan words?)

Tetrat/Tetr(ag) - exercise book
Cerdtse/Sirt - heart

[jgk3]

Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

Russian/Armenian cognates (loan words?)

Cerdtse/Sirt - heart

Not loan word, inheritance from PIE. English "heart" and French "coeur" are also systematically related to them.

[womble]

Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

Eastern Armenian: Varum (driving) - English: Vroom-vroom!!!!

[womble]

Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

Could there be a connection, i guess via the latin '...tio', between the Armenian abstract noun ending ութիւն/ություն and the English suffix '...tion' as in 'emotion', 'indignation', 'volition', 'communication' etc?

[jgk3]

Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

yes, tiun in Armenian and tion from latin are suprisingly close in form and meaning with eachother as cognate suffixes. The only thing I'd consider is the fact that tiun in Armenian could also mean the -ness suffix in english. In general, they have differences of use but they do overlap. I wish I could show some examples of very clear matches between English and Armenian here but unfortunately, my vocabulary in Armenian is not rich in words with tiun endings that do not translate to -ness in English. Maybe you can come up with some for me?

[jgk3]

Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

yes, tiun in Armenian and tion from latin are suprisingly close in form and meaning with eachother as cognate suffixes. The only thing I'd consider is the fact that tiun in Armenian could also mean the -ness suffix in english. In general, they have differences of use but they do overlap. I wish I could show some examples of very clear matches between English and Armenian here but unfortunately, my vocabulary in Armenian is not rich in words with tiun endings that do not translate to -ness in English. Maybe you can come up with some for me?

[womble]

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...my vocabulary in Armenian is not rich in words with tiun endings that do not translate to -ness in English. Maybe you can come up with some for me?

նախապատրաստութիւն- preparation
հաղորդակցութիւն - communication
Առաջարկութիւն - suggestion, proposition
վճռականութիւն - resolution
Բաժանորդագրութիւն - subscription

(Btw, my vocabulary's not great either - had to use a dictionary to help me.)

[jgk3]

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haha, thanks though.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

I haven't heard this, could you explain the connection please?

I doubt direct, Scots originally migrated from Ireland into Inse ghall (Hebrides) and then to Edinburgh, the Celts originally were from the earliest accounts from modern day Montenegro (some coins still bear Celtic ornaments), also DNA wise Armenians have little in common with Scots, that said there is an Armenian influence on Celts via the fact that Celts traded in Anatolia and would frequently have come into contact with Armenians (the majority people at that stage pre Turkey).

I have not found any cognates between Scottish/Irish Gaelic and Hayeren, although my Hayeren isn't good and I'm still learning it.

Also I thought the brunt and majority of Armenian is taken from Urartian?

[jgk3]

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Also I thought the brunt and majority of Armenian is taken from Urartian?

This is not true. We have a very constrained set of Urartian loan words at best. Our phonology was apparently influenced by Urartian back when it used to be the super-stratum language on our lands.