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  • #91
    Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

    Russian/Armenian cognates (loan words?)

    Tetrat/Tetr(ag) - exercise book
    Cerdtse/Sirt - heart

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    • #92
      Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

      Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
      Russian/Armenian cognates (loan words?)

      Cerdtse/Sirt - heart
      Not loan word, inheritance from PIE. English "heart" and French "coeur" are also systematically related to them.

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      • #93
        Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

        Eastern Armenian: Varum (driving) - English: Vroom-vroom!!!!

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        • #94
          Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

          Could there be a connection, i guess via the latin '...tio', between the Armenian abstract noun ending ութիւն/ություն and the English suffix '...tion' as in 'emotion', 'indignation', 'volition', 'communication' etc?

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          • #95
            Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

            yes, tiun in Armenian and tion from latin are suprisingly close in form and meaning with eachother as cognate suffixes. The only thing I'd consider is the fact that tiun in Armenian could also mean the -ness suffix in english. In general, they have differences of use but they do overlap. I wish I could show some examples of very clear matches between English and Armenian here but unfortunately, my vocabulary in Armenian is not rich in words with tiun endings that do not translate to -ness in English. Maybe you can come up with some for me?

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            • #96
              Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

              yes, tiun in Armenian and tion from latin are suprisingly close in form and meaning with eachother as cognate suffixes. The only thing I'd consider is the fact that tiun in Armenian could also mean the -ness suffix in english. In general, they have differences of use but they do overlap. I wish I could show some examples of very clear matches between English and Armenian here but unfortunately, my vocabulary in Armenian is not rich in words with tiun endings that do not translate to -ness in English. Maybe you can come up with some for me?

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              • #97
                Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

                Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
                ...my vocabulary in Armenian is not rich in words with tiun endings that do not translate to -ness in English. Maybe you can come up with some for me?
                նախապատրաստութիւն- preparation
                հաղորդակցութիւն - communication
                Առաջարկութիւն - suggestion, proposition
                վճռականութիւն - resolution
                Բաժանորդագրութիւն - subscription

                (Btw, my vocabulary's not great either - had to use a dictionary to help me.)
                Last edited by womble; 03-28-2009, 11:41 AM.

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                • #98
                  Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

                  haha, thanks though.

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                  • #99
                    Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

                    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
                    I haven't heard this, could you explain the connection please?
                    I doubt direct, Scots originally migrated from Ireland into Inse ghall (Hebrides) and then to Edinburgh, the Celts originally were from the earliest accounts from modern day Montenegro (some coins still bear Celtic ornaments), also DNA wise Armenians have little in common with Scots, that said there is an Armenian influence on Celts via the fact that Celts traded in Anatolia and would frequently have come into contact with Armenians (the majority people at that stage pre Turkey).

                    I have not found any cognates between Scottish/Irish Gaelic and Hayeren, although my Hayeren isn't good and I'm still learning it.

                    Also I thought the brunt and majority of Armenian is taken from Urartian?

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                    • #100
                      Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

                      Originally posted by Pedro Xaramillo View Post
                      Also I thought the brunt and majority of Armenian is taken from Urartian?
                      This is not true. We have a very constrained set of Urartian loan words at best. Our phonology was apparently influenced by Urartian back when it used to be the super-stratum language on our lands.

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