Armenian cognates w/other languages

[Ephestion]

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Was Aramaeic the root or base language of Armenians?

[Armenian]

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Was Aramaeic the root or base language of Armenians?

Neither. The root/base of the Armenian language is Aryan. In Western academia Aramaeic is not considered to be related to Armenian in any way. However, certain Armenian linguists/historians suggest that Aramaeic is a mix of ancient Armenian and a Semitic language. What made you think Arameaic is related to Armenian in the first place?

I haven't heard this, could you explain the connection please?

Well, aren't all Indo-Europeans (Aryans) derived of the Armenian Highlands? Perhaps more than other Aryan nations in the Western world, Scots (Celts) have direct linguistic, physiological and cultural connections to the Armenian highlands. Read Martiros Kavukjian's monumental work titled: Armenia, Subartu and Sumer - The Indo-European Homeland and Ancient Mesopotamia.

tari (year) - tarry (to linger) Probably stretching it a bit, but I thought I might as well mention it.

Words go through evolutions of sorts. This sometimes effects the pronunciation of the word other times it effects the meaning. So, in this light, the connection you just made is all that far fetched.

Armenian: դուստր (dustr) English: daughter

Dustr/Daughter is so obvious that I simply forgot to mention it.

Armenian: սուր/ sur English: sword

Definitely.

Armenian: Sako
Spanish: Saco

What?

[Armenian]

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Revised list for Armenian-English:

Kov (Cow), muk (mouse), sqiyur (squirrel), vagr (tiger), katu (cat), shun (hound), lusin (lunar), lus-aber (light bearer/Lucifer), armuk (elbow), ach (eye), vod (foot), mek (mono), tasn (ten), hinq (five), ut/okht (eight), in (nine), chors (four), get (wet), tur (door), ber (bear/burden), qar/qarord (quarter/four), tarnal (to turn), ser (sex), eight, serm (sperm), karq (cart), hot (herd), jisht (just), her (hair), shakal (jackal), ut-el (eat), ls-el (to listen), es-el (to say), qar (rock pronounced backwards), kuj (jug pronounced backwards), lav (well pronounced backwards), ov (who pronounced backwards), buys/tup (bush), tsul (bull), entanur (entire), otar (other), nor (new), glor (globe), mard (man), meas (meat), mayr (mother), hayr (father), dustr (daughter), yeghbayr (brother), khor-ovel (char-broil), duyl (pail), gini (wine), berd (fort), patker (picture), petur (feather), kt-rel (to cut), manr (mini), mrmral (murmur), tapalel (topple), mets (mega), hur (fire/pyr), du (you), astgh (star/aster), jarb (lard), em (I am), charcharel (torture), mich-in (middle), ayo (yes/ay/ya), vorb (orphan), hod (odor), lao (lad), metagh (metal), patizh (punish), sirt (heart), dev (devil), surb (saint), kam (come), gray (korsh), mid (mind), aq (axle), partez (garden), paytsar (bright), sprel (spread/spew), srs-gich (syringe), lezu (lingual), mer-nil (mortal), vat (bad), ayt/da (that), e (the), jerm (worm), sard (spider), vort (worm), sur (sword), lij (lake), bayts (but), agh (salt), barg (bag), qsak (sack), at-el (to hate), gam (come), la-l (to lament), yur (your/his/her), chl-el (to chuck), ard (yard/orchard), goriz (core), gna (go), qats (kick), sirt (heart), amur (armor???), napastak (rabbit???), hasdat-el (fasten???), hska (husky???), shant (bolt???), ashun (autumn???), zndan (dungeon???)...

[jgk3]

Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

Well, aren't all Indo-Europeans (Aryans) derived of the Armenian Highlands? Perhaps more than other Aryan nations in the Western world, Scots (Celts) have direct linguistic, physiological and cultural connections to the Armenian highlands. Read Martiros Kavukjian's monumental work titled: Armenia, Subartu and Sumer - The Indo-European Homeland and Ancient Mesopotamia.

I had checked for this book on amazon a while ago and it wasn't available, I checked again today and this is what I found: http://www.amazon.com/Armenia-Subart.../dp/0921885008

It's 243 pages, I feel like 200$ is too much for that. Is there anywhere I can go to find it cheaper?

[Armanen]

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I had checked for this book on amazon a while ago and it wasn't available, I checked again today and this is what I found: http://www.amazon.com/Armenia-Subart.../dp/0921885008

It's 243 pages, I feel like 200$ is too much for that. Is there anywhere I can go to find it cheaper?

Narek.com and St.Vartans.com should have them. And I think it is only $30-40.

[jgk3]

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Thank you.

[Armenian]

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It's 243 pages, I feel like 200$ is too much for that. Is there anywhere I can go to find it cheaper?

$200

I'll sell you mine for $199.99

Just kidding, I would never sell mine. I purchased the Armenian original and the English translation about ten years ago for $20 each at the St. Vartan Cathedral gift shop. I think the book is out of print. I have not come across any of the books for a long time now, which may explain the current high price. See if you can borrow it from someone that owns the book. Kavukjian lived the last portion of his life in Montreal, you should have some luck finding the book there. Since you are genuinely interested in this subject matter, you would absolutely treasure the book. It's really a great piece of work.

[Armanen]

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[jgk3]

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$200

I'll sell you mine for $199.99

Just kidding, I would never sell mine. I purchased the Armenian original and the English translation about ten years ago for $20 each at the St. Vartan Cathedral gift shop. I think the book is out of print. I have not come across any of the books for a long time now, which may explain the current high price. See if you can borrow it from someone that owns the book. Kavukjian lived the last portion of his life in Montreal, you should have some luck finding the book there. Since you are genuinely interested in this subject matter, you would absolutely treasure the book. It's really a great piece of work.

haha, alright. Yes I would definitely enjoy it and I will ask about its availability in Montreal.

[jgk3]

Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

Tarn-al - To Turn

Vertche - After? - Après (French, reveals r after labial consonant, just like Armenian. Could've been lost in English, or never developed in English. A bit of an adventurous connection perhaps, but I see phonological shifts that could tie them together)?

Dzar - Tree

Tchur - Water

Kordz - Work (backwards?)

gen/ge/ga/gan suffix - kind (type)/kin

jam - time

heru - far

amar - summer

payd (unless iranian borrowing) - wood

kini - wine

kenats - gone

gyank - quick (used to mean "alive" in Old English)

yertasart - youth?

Meghr - Mead (only surviving PIE "honey" reference in English)?

pan-al - to open

cots-el - to close

nst-il - to sit

partsr - upper?

dzayr - edge

gyn - queen

dun - home - doma (Russian, using it to help you link English and Armenian forms)

kr-el/gr-el - scribe (Latin derived English word) - écriv-er (French, lost the s just like Armenian)