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  • #71
    Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

    Was Aramaeic the root or base language of Armenians?

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    • #72
      Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

      Originally posted by Ephestion View Post
      Was Aramaeic the root or base language of Armenians?
      Neither. The root/base of the Armenian language is Aryan. In Western academia Aramaeic is not considered to be related to Armenian in any way. However, certain Armenian linguists/historians suggest that Aramaeic is a mix of ancient Armenian and a Semitic language. What made you think Arameaic is related to Armenian in the first place?

      Originally posted by Armanen View Post
      I haven't heard this, could you explain the connection please?
      Well, aren't all Indo-Europeans (Aryans) derived of the Armenian Highlands? Perhaps more than other Aryan nations in the Western world, Scots (Celts) have direct linguistic, physiological and cultural connections to the Armenian highlands. Read Martiros Kavukjian's monumental work titled: Armenia, Subartu and Sumer - The Indo-European Homeland and Ancient Mesopotamia.

      Originally posted by womble View Post
      tari (year) - tarry (to linger) Probably stretching it a bit, but I thought I might as well mention it.
      Words go through evolutions of sorts. This sometimes effects the pronunciation of the word other times it effects the meaning. So, in this light, the connection you just made is all that far fetched.

      Originally posted by TomServo View Post
      Armenian: դուստր (dustr) English: daughter
      Dustr/Daughter is so obvious that I simply forgot to mention it.

      Originally posted by Lucin View Post
      Armenian: սուր/ sur English: sword
      Definitely.

      Originally posted by PepsiAddict View Post
      Armenian: Sako
      Spanish: Saco
      What?
      Last edited by Armenian; 11-30-2008, 07:53 PM.
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      Նժդեհ


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      • #73
        Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

        Revised list for Armenian-English:

        Kov (Cow), muk (mouse), sqiyur (squirrel), vagr (tiger), katu (cat), shun (hound), lusin (lunar), lus-aber (light bearer/Lucifer), armuk (elbow), ach (eye), vod (foot), mek (mono), tasn (ten), hinq (five), ut/okht (eight), in (nine), chors (four), get (wet), tur (door), ber (bear/burden), qar/qarord (quarter/four), tarnal (to turn), ser (sex), eight, serm (sperm), karq (cart), hot (herd), jisht (just), her (hair), shakal (jackal), ut-el (eat), ls-el (to listen), es-el (to say), qar (rock pronounced backwards), kuj (jug pronounced backwards), lav (well pronounced backwards), ov (who pronounced backwards), buys/tup (bush), tsul (bull), entanur (entire), otar (other), nor (new), glor (globe), mard (man), meas (meat), mayr (mother), hayr (father), dustr (daughter), yeghbayr (brother), khor-ovel (char-broil), duyl (pail), gini (wine), berd (fort), patker (picture), petur (feather), kt-rel (to cut), manr (mini), mrmral (murmur), tapalel (topple), mets (mega), hur (fire/pyr), du (you), astgh (star/aster), jarb (lard), em (I am), charcharel (torture), mich-in (middle), ayo (yes/ay/ya), vorb (orphan), hod (odor), lao (lad), metagh (metal), patizh (punish), sirt (heart), dev (devil), surb (saint), kam (come), gray (korsh), mid (mind), aq (axle), partez (garden), paytsar (bright), sprel (spread/spew), srs-gich (syringe), lezu (lingual), mer-nil (mortal), vat (bad), ayt/da (that), e (the), jerm (worm), sard (spider), vort (worm), sur (sword), lij (lake), bayts (but), agh (salt), barg (bag), qsak (sack), at-el (to hate), gam (come), la-l (to lament), yur (your/his/her), chl-el (to chuck), ard (yard/orchard), goriz (core), gna (go), qats (kick), sirt (heart), amur (armor???), napastak (rabbit???), hasdat-el (fasten???), hska (husky???), shant (bolt???), ashun (autumn???), zndan (dungeon???)...
        Last edited by Armenian; 11-30-2008, 08:25 PM.
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        • #74
          Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

          Originally posted by Armenian View Post
          Well, aren't all Indo-Europeans (Aryans) derived of the Armenian Highlands? Perhaps more than other Aryan nations in the Western world, Scots (Celts) have direct linguistic, physiological and cultural connections to the Armenian highlands. Read Martiros Kavukjian's monumental work titled: Armenia, Subartu and Sumer - The Indo-European Homeland and Ancient Mesopotamia.
          I had checked for this book on amazon a while ago and it wasn't available, I checked again today and this is what I found: http://www.amazon.com/Armenia-Subart.../dp/0921885008

          It's 243 pages, I feel like 200$ is too much for that. Is there anywhere I can go to find it cheaper?

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          • #75
            Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

            Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
            I had checked for this book on amazon a while ago and it wasn't available, I checked again today and this is what I found: http://www.amazon.com/Armenia-Subart.../dp/0921885008

            It's 243 pages, I feel like 200$ is too much for that. Is there anywhere I can go to find it cheaper?
            Narek.com and St.Vartans.com should have them. And I think it is only $30-40.
            For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
            to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



            http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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            • #76
              Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

              Thank you.

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              • #77
                Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

                Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
                It's 243 pages, I feel like 200$ is too much for that. Is there anywhere I can go to find it cheaper?
                $200

                I'll sell you mine for $199.99

                Just kidding, I would never sell mine. I purchased the Armenian original and the English translation about ten years ago for $20 each at the St. Vartan Cathedral gift shop. I think the book is out of print. I have not come across any of the books for a long time now, which may explain the current high price. See if you can borrow it from someone that owns the book. Kavukjian lived the last portion of his life in Montreal, you should have some luck finding the book there. Since you are genuinely interested in this subject matter, you would absolutely treasure the book. It's really a great piece of work.
                Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

                Նժդեհ


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                • #78
                  Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

                  For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                  to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                  http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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                  • #79
                    Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

                    Originally posted by Armenian View Post
                    $200

                    I'll sell you mine for $199.99

                    Just kidding, I would never sell mine. I purchased the Armenian original and the English translation about ten years ago for $20 each at the St. Vartan Cathedral gift shop. I think the book is out of print. I have not come across any of the books for a long time now, which may explain the current high price. See if you can borrow it from someone that owns the book. Kavukjian lived the last portion of his life in Montreal, you should have some luck finding the book there. Since you are genuinely interested in this subject matter, you would absolutely treasure the book. It's really a great piece of work.
                    haha, alright. Yes I would definitely enjoy it and I will ask about its availability in Montreal.

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                    • #80
                      Re: Armenian cognates w/other languages

                      Tarn-al - To Turn

                      Vertche - After? - Après (French, reveals r after labial consonant, just like Armenian. Could've been lost in English, or never developed in English. A bit of an adventurous connection perhaps, but I see phonological shifts that could tie them together)?

                      Dzar - Tree

                      Tchur - Water

                      Kordz - Work (backwards?)

                      gen/ge/ga/gan suffix - kind (type)/kin

                      jam - time

                      heru - far

                      amar - summer

                      payd (unless iranian borrowing) - wood

                      kini - wine

                      kenats - gone

                      gyank - quick (used to mean "alive" in Old English)

                      yertasart - youth?

                      Meghr - Mead (only surviving PIE "honey" reference in English)?

                      pan-al - to open

                      cots-el - to close

                      nst-il - to sit

                      partsr - upper?

                      dzayr - edge

                      gyn - queen

                      dun - home - doma (Russian, using it to help you link English and Armenian forms)

                      kr-el/gr-el - scribe (Latin derived English word) - écriv-er (French, lost the s just like Armenian)
                      Last edited by jgk3; 12-03-2008, 05:00 AM.

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