Learning Armenian from Armenian people

[Catharsis]

Re: help with armenian language which written by english words

i really need help to translate this:
karxeM dU eL laV eS imanuM esdghE ichxevenK abruM lool hedO dU incH eS anuM lavA anxnuM vordegheS? mer30 commentS dneluxeD huysoveL iraR heD eL shaD mdermananK!:d
please exactly tell me what its saying its really important to me

Here you go -

I think you know quite well how we are living here [lol]. And what are you doing, where are you now? I hope after reading my comments we can get to know each other better.

[Lucin]

Re: help with armenian language which written by english words

i really need help to translate this:
karxeM dU eL laV eS imanuM esdghE ichxevenK abruM lool hedO dU incH eS anuM lavA anxnuM vordegheS? mer30 commentS dneluxeD huysoveL iraR heD eL shaD mdermananK!:d
please exactly tell me what its saying its really important to me

I think you also know how we're living here, lol. What are you doing? How's life? Where are you? Thanks for leaving comments, I hope we'll get to know each other better!


I'm sure the comment is coming from a Parskahye.

[Lucin]

Re: Learning Armenian from Armenian people

Well, hi Lucin how are you? I hope you're fine

I have a lot of questions but I can remember them right now, but I will say those which I can

OK, well I wanted to know what is the use of "-բ" at the end of words, for example in "Ոստիկանության հաղորդմամբ"....what's it's use?

Thanks, I'm well. How are you doing?

It could vary depending on the context. The example you gave is interesting, in here it means 'according to police announcement'. But when I say կատարմամբ՝ Նունէ Եսայեանի, here it means 'with the performance of...'

I also wanted to know a little about word decletion, like when it passes from "Մուկ" to "Մկներ". In what cases does word decletion happens? And with what kind of words?

"Մկներ" is the plural form of "Մուկ" like; շուն/ շներ. I have already given you examples of such words and explained about it previously. Here it is:

Usually nouns (rarely adjectives) with 'ու' and 'ի' in the middle go through this change when transformed into another part of speech of the same family. The cases are not numerous but not few either. I"ll give you some commmon ones: նուռ/ նռան, մուկ/ մկան/ մկներ, ձուկ/ ձկան/ ձկներ, հին/ հնութիւն, գիրք/ գրքեր, մութ/ մթնել, ցուրտ/ ցրտել, գիրկ/ գրկել, սուր/ սրել, ծուռ/ ծռնել, շուն/ շան/ շներ, ջուր / ջրի, տուն/ տան, դուռ/ դռան. This is all I can remember now, if you don't understand let me know, I'll give examples by them. Note that some of these tranformed forms are possesives, some verbs and some others nouns.

[BritishHye]

Re: help with armenian language which written by english words

thanks guys
yes its from an armenian girl which lives in iran atm i really like her she gonna visit UK soon so im preparing myself for that
i kinda like her (you know what i mean)
i have enough knowledge in armenian language to answer her myself

[ashot24]

Re: Learning Armenian from Armenian people

Thanks, I'm well. How are you doing?

It could vary depending on the context. The example you gave is interesting, in here it means 'according to police announcement'. But when I say կատարմամբ՝ Նունէ Եսայեանի, here it means 'with the performance of...'

I am doing very well Lucin jan
I kind of understand its use, I've seen it a lot, for example in things like "Duq hpartutyanb ltsnum eq im sirt@" when it is like "with pride", but maybe is there a rule of its use and what it implies?

"Մկներ" is the plural form of "Մուկ" like; շուն/ շներ. I have already given you examples of such words and explained about it previously. Here it is:

Yeah sorry I forgot I've asked you before sorry

I also had another question, I don't know if it is only present on poetry or lyrics, but for example in these phrases "Ես իմ անուշ Հայաստանի ", "Իմ լույս քաղաքի վրա" and "Ես իմ Հայ հողից" what is the function of "իմ"?. I know it is not "my" because I know what those phrases mean, but is it a literary tool or an actual grammar example?

And finally, I have asked before the meaning of "-ին" when it comes to numbers, but I have noticed it also appears in words. For example, "Հայաստանին" "Մասիս Սարին", I guess it can vary according to the sentence, but is there maybe an explanation of what it implies when added to words?

Thanks Lucin once again

[Lucin]

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I am doing very well Lucin jan
I kind of understand its use, I've seen it a lot, for example in things like "Duq hpartutyanb ltsnum eq im sirt@" when it is like "with pride", but maybe is there a rule of its use and what it implies?

If I'm not mistaken we have also discussed about this previously. The rule goes in hand with its meaning and it's usually used with nouns expressing abstarct ideas like; քո օգնութեամբ/ նրա կատարմամբ/ համեստութեամբ... While you say մատիտով/ օդանաւով, etc.

I also had another question, I don't know if it is only present on poetry or lyrics, but for example in these phrases "Ես իմ անուշ Հայաստանի ", "Իմ լույս քաղաքի վրա" and "Ես իմ Հայ հողից" what is the function of "իմ"?. I know it is not "my" because I know what those phrases mean, but is it a literary tool or an actual grammar example?

No it is not limited to literature. You can perfectly use it in every day conversations. Իմ մեքենան/ իմ տունը/ քո երեխան...

And finally, I have asked before the meaning of "-ին" when it comes to numbers, but I have noticed it also appears in words. For example, "Հայաստանին" "Մասիս Սարին", I guess it can vary according to the sentence, but is there maybe an explanation of what it implies when added to words?

What do you mean by 'implies'? It is usually used when you address something or somebody. I'm not sure if I understand you correctly. Maybe you can give examples in complete sentences?

[ashot24]

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If I'm not mistaken we have also discussed about this previously. The rule goes in hand with its meaning and it's usually used with nouns expressing abstarct ideas like; քո օգնութեամբ/ նրա կատարմամբ/ համեստութեամբ... While you say մատիտով/ օդանաւով, etc.

Oh thanks Lucin I understood thank you

What do you mean by 'implies'? It is usually used when you address something or somebody. I'm not sure if I understand you correctly. Maybe you can give examples in complete sentences?

Thanks Lucin I just got it wrong the last time you explained it to me, sorry idk why I forget what I've already asked or you had previously explained to me..sorry

Well I think this question I haven't asked you before...Ok. I wanted to ask, when I am making a sentence or a question where I am using the words "ինձ". "մեզ"...I wanted to ask where do I place those words?

I know with "qez" I can say "Ես սիրում եմ քեզ", but I have seen in sentences, for example "Ինձ արհամարհելով, դուք ինձ չեք օգնում" that "indz" goes in different places, as well as "Մենք քիչ ենք, սակայն մեզ հայ են ասում", as well as "mez". So I wanted to ask, is there a rule of where to place those words in a sentence?

[Yedtarts]

Re: Learning Armenian from Armenian people

A good place to learn Armenian:

Armenian Virtual College

[Lucin]

Re: Learning Armenian from Armenian people

Well I think this question I haven't asked you before...Ok. I wanted to ask, when I am making a sentence or a question where I am using the words "ինձ". "մեզ"...I wanted to ask where do I place those words?

I know with "qez" I can say "Ես սիրում եմ քեզ", but I have seen in sentences, for example "Ինձ արհամարհելով, դուք ինձ չեք օգնում" that "indz" goes in different places, as well as "Մենք քիչ ենք, սակայն մեզ հայ են ասում", as well as "mez". So I wanted to ask, is there a rule of where to place those words in a sentence?

As far as I know there's no particular rule. However the 'rule' is where you want to put the emphasis on. When you say մեզ հայ են ասում", by putting մեզ at the head, you accentuate it further. For example, you can say; ես քեզ սիրում եմ / քեզ սիրում եմ / սիրում եմ քեզ... all are the same except that the emphasis as well as the intonation changes.

Yedtars, the program is not free apparently.

[ashot24]

Re: Learning Armenian from Armenian people

Hi Lucin, well today I just have a little question...you see I became obsessed with this phrase "մեռնեմ արեւիդ", I read it means something beautiful, but I can't find information about it.

Also, I've seen many in many websites people uses the word "sort", for example "sort erg, sort qaghak", I guess it means "cool" or something like that.

If it's not a bothering, could you please tell me what the proper meaning of these words is? And if it is not too much, also how do I write the word "sort"?

Thanks