Learning Armenian from Armenian people

[KanadaHye]

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Sometimes the best teacher in the world is yourself With self discipline comes self determination. If you have found a way of learning that works for you, that's all that matters.

[ashot24]

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I haven't seen this. Have you seen it written somewhere or you think you've just heard it? We have for instance -րդ as an ending for numbers.

Yeah, I saw it like these:

"էդ տաբատը 20սմ կախը կարծեմ հատուկ տաբատներ են, դրա համար չեն ընկնում, ու տիպիկ ոճ ա ռեպերական քայլվածքով, շարժուձևով ջահելության համար:"

It is an article about Freddy Mercury and I wanted to look at the comments, because that's when a lot of common expressions/slang come out

Ashot, do you use any particular method for learning? How long have you been learning and how do you practice?

Well, I follow a "method" (between great "") that I created. I don't even know to call it a method, but when it comes to learning things...you could say I am really slow. When I started to learn english I was like in 2nd course of highschool, I've had english all my life since here to know that language is a big deal, everything is in English...but I couldn't understand anything even when I was strictly taught...So I just dropped studying it the "normal way"...I started looking at things in English with a great patiente and a dictionary, asking questions to teachers, and not paying attention to grammar...unless there's a rule to memorize of how should I use a word or is stricly necessary for me to understand something.

Then practicing, like on the bus to school I see the sky and say to myself "Mi shat geghetsik or aysor e" or in any situation I think to myself a sentence and put in the language I wanted to learn. And that's how I did, I know it isn't even logical to recommend someone to do this, since it has been criticized by most people and linguists I've met...but I learnt English this way, Russian this way, some Italian and some German this way...so at least it works for me, practicing everyday at common situations trying to think how to say something right, looking at pages in that language, using a translator or a dictionary, listening to music or conversations or movies to get used to how it sounds. I practice everyday, at every situation where I know enough to express myself in short sentences, then I make them larger and so on...

I've made a great progress with Armenian, now when I read a full text I can know if not the meaning at least roughly about what it is, and I have to thank you and everybody who has helped me...I hope, and you could say I am impatient to do so, I can speak decently basic Armenian by the end of this year


Thanks Lucin very much, I know that sometimes I can ask things that are really like of logical thinking, or that you may come up easily...but I don't like to just argue what is the use of something unless I am totally sure, or guess it even if it is stupidly logical because I've had bad experiences with that.

[Lucin]

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I've read "վայ մեռա" before, what does alone vay merra means?

It could be used as an expression of disappointment, impatience or anger. It comes from the verb 'մեռնել' in case you didn't notice.

And also I have a question, I noticed the letter ա is used alone in sentences...for example: Հարցն էն ա, որ էդ իրանց հետևածը մեր համար դրական չի։ or Էդ "խավն" ահավոր ա:...what does the single "a" there means?

It's not just a letter. It is the verb 'է' transformed into 'ա' in its spoken/ conversational form.

Oh and also, this ending for numbers "20սմ"...what does it mean???

I haven't seen this. Have you seen it written somewhere or you think you've just heard it? We have for instance -րդ as an ending for numbers.


Ashot, do you use any particular method for learning? How long have you been learning and how do you practice?

I was talking about what we say. Leave our barsga anamolies alone. I'm not changing them. No No No No No No!

Yea I know but I couldn't help myself since the guy is learning it methodically and that may have been confusing to him.

[ashot24]

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Wow, thanks guys for all your help...you're such a blessing!

I've read "վայ մեռա" before, what does alone vay merra means?
And also I have a question, I noticed the letter ա is used alone in sentences...for example: Հարցն էն ա, որ էդ իրանց հետևածը մեր համար դրական չի։ or Էդ "խավն" ահավոր ա:...what does the single "a" there means?

Oh and also, this ending for numbers "20սմ"...what does it mean???

[Siggie]

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'Tarvetsink' in its correct conjugation.

I was talking about what we say. Leave our barsga anamolies alone. I'm not changing them. No No No No No No!

[Lucin]

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I have heard hoghem glukht a lot when i was little in Hayastan.

Okay. So it's common in the Eastern dialect. As you can see Ashot, 'hoghem glukht' is a not so polite metaphoric expression used when you're angry with someone or want to criticise, reproach somebody for doing something stupid or annoying. Sometimes it can be used jokingly as well.
Also I make a 'ծ' sound like Federate said to express frustration. 'Vaaaaay' is also used in different situations to express anger, frustration, impatience. 'Ay kez ban' also is an expression common in Armenia used to express anger, frustration, disappointment or surprise; of course the intonation should be rising. What Pazooki said is also a common vulgar expression popular among Armenian men.

I usually make a "ts" noise with my tongue/lips when i'm frustrated. In more angry cases, I yell out "KAK" There's another thing I also say but i'll keep that to myself

We know what it is

I wasn't answering your crap question. I was talking about "tsekh."


If you don't want to curse you can say "Vaaaaaaaaaay, tarvank!" for 'we lost'.
Otherwise the only thing I can think of would be roughly equivalent to "F***ck!"

'Tarvetsink' in its correct conjugation.

[Pazooki]

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Also if it is not a bother Lucin jan, what is an expression to express dissapointment? Like "Crap!"?

There is no equivalent to crap but mostly people use

WARNING LANGUAGE

"Vay Mera Kunem"

[Federate]

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No no, I didn't mean literally like Crap, I meant like an equivalent, it can even be the name of a fruit but I just wanted to know a word in a given context to express dissapointment or anger like when you loose a fotball game and say "Crap! We lost".

I usually make a "ts" noise with my tongue/lips when i'm frustrated. In more angry cases, I yell out "KAK" There's another thing I also say but i'll keep that to myself

[Siggie]

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No no, I didn't mean literally like Crap, I meant like an equivalent, it can even be the name of a fruit but I just wanted to know a word in a given context to express dissapointment or anger like when you loose a fotball game and say "Crap! We lost".

I wasn't answering your crap question. I was talking about "tsekh."


If you don't want to curse you can say "Vaaaaaaaaaay, tarvank!" for 'we lost'.
Otherwise the only thing I can think of would be roughly equivalent to "F***ck!"

[ashot24]

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Dirt or mud on you has to do with death and burial. So, it's really not a nice thing to say, though from context it can be used jokingly.

No no, I didn't mean literally like Crap, I meant like an equivalent, it can even be the name of a fruit but I just wanted to know a word in a given context to express dissapointment or anger like when you loose a fotball game and say "Crap! We lost".