Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

[Mos]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Hell you guys will turn to jokes when your loosing the argument and thats fine but never do you seem to admit the truth and will be back tommorow with another round of women bashing...this gets quite boring. Yo Mos overpopulation does not mean your doing well. These muslim countries are gona run out of resources especialy water in the middle east and then i wana hear you tell me how well they are doing. As for Armenia the problem is way more economic then reproductive.

Well usually economic problem is correlated with reproductive problem. Armenia's birth rate is alarmingly low, but with improved economy, and also with encouragement by government to have bigger families, it can be made better. I think though one of the ways to approach the moral issues is through firstly education in schools via religious education and so forth (already being done under title "History of Armenian Church"). I also think that our civil laws should be compatible with God's law and our national church should play a bigger in everyday life and have more say in the political process. The way it is now, we change our laws/decrees based on what some liberal European bureaucrats tell us too. I really don't like that.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Yo Mos overpopulation does not mean your doing well. These muslim countries are gona run out of resources especialy water in the middle east and then i wana hear you tell me how well they are doing. As for Armenia the problem is way more economic then reproductive.

It's a combination of terrible governance, economic policy and worshiping Europe and America leading to migration and brain drain.

[Haykakan]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Dont forget blockade and war but thats not what this thread is about. Armenia has many big problems and the reproduction rate is not the biggest one. Armenia needs access to markets, end to oligarchy, peace .. these and many other problems are far more important then being and staying hetamnats.

It's a combination of terrible governance, economic policy and worshiping Europe and America leading to migration and brain drain.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Dont forget blockade and war but thats not what this thread is about. Armenia has many big problems and the reproduction rate is not the biggest one. Armenia needs access to markets, end to oligarchy, peace .. these and many other problems are far more important then being and staying hetamnats.

Explain "hetamnats" because I thought prostitution was the world's oldest profession.

[gegev]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

You still dont get it. It will not matter who is reproducing more effectively when overpopulation will destroy our world. In the end does it matter if the last person on earth to die is white, black , brown, or orange? If the traditional values you speak of mean having lots of kids then it is that traditional value that will doom humanity thus either way your argument makes no rational sense. You are basically saying o look the muslims are like the lemmings running the fastest to suicide dive off the cliff so lets join them.

Thus you scientifically proved that the overpopulation will destroy our world. And the nationalities that have been able to reproduce themselves, as opposed to the extinguished western ones, will die too.

Therefore there is no need to think about prevention of the western indigenous population from extinction. And no need to talk about Armenian "hetamnats" population at all.

And your only consolation is: "it doesn't matter if the last person on earth to die is white, black , brown, or orange?"

[Siggie]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

In what way? I'm point out the obvious when it comes to some Yerevanci women.

Well, it's part circular and it's part mismatched/nonsensical.

Your argument(s?): Women today are (going to be?) corrupted by the West. I'm not arguing that we should change anything, just preserve the existing Armenian value system.

Q: What evidence do you have that "western ideals" corrupt and produce the behaviors you're complaining about when even the Hayastanci women who should have more traditional Armenian values are worse in that regard than the Diasporans?

Your answer: Yerevanci women are behaving that way because of the western influence!

[Haykakan]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Kanadahye-hetamnats means someone who sticks to only what they know and refuses to learn anything new including things that will help him/her. Hetamnats people will actually use many of the things modern society provides yet still argue that these things are evile etc.. kind of like your relationship with science.
Gegev as usual your argument regarding this and similar matters runs into a brick wall because it simply does not make any sense. It is funny to me how you guys call yourself religious chrystians yet your practices resemble more muslim teachings. The planet we live on can only sustain so many people and controling the human population is important so that we dont destroy our planet and ourselves. As for Armenia her demographic problems stem from the poor economic/social conditions which lead to mass exidus which follows previous mass exidus because of the same reasons and war. As for the western states one can argue that bringing down their own population is the responcible thing to do and should be done by more countries untill a sustainable level is reached.

[gegev]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Kanadahye-hetamnats means someone who sticks to only what they know and refuses to learn anything new including things that will help him/her. Hetamnats people will actually use many of the things modern society provides yet still argue that these things are evile etc.. kind of like your relationship with science.
Gegev as usual your argument regarding this and similar matters runs into a brick wall because it simply does not make any sense. It is funny to me how you guys call yourself religious chrystians yet your practices resemble more muslim teachings. The planet we live on can only sustain so many people and controling the human population is important so that we dont destroy our planet and ourselves. As for Armenia her demographic problems stem from the poor economic/social conditions which lead to mass exidus which follows previous mass exidus because of the same reasons and war. As for the western states one can argue that bringing down their own population is the responcible thing to do and should be done by more countries untill a sustainable level is reached.

Your words are properly polished and each has its own meaning separately , but somehow, when you put them together, the whole thing doesn't carry even a tiniest organized idea/meaning, regarding the subject under discussion, my dear philosopher; "arajadem datarkaxos"! Therefore let me ignore the words.

[Mos]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Well, it's part circular and it's part mismatched/nonsensical.

Your argument(s?): Women today are (going to be?) corrupted by the West. I'm not arguing that we should change anything, just preserve the existing Armenian value system.

Q: What evidence do you have that "western ideals" corrupt and produce the behaviors you're complaining about when even the Hayastanci women who should have more traditional Armenian values are worse in that regard than the Diasporans?

Your answer: Yerevanci women are behaving that way because of the western influence!

Well not all Yerevanci women are acting like that. You have a small portion that are acting like that as a result of such influences. I'm arguing that in protecting our existing value system (which those women are violating) we will make sure the majority of our society doesn't delve into such foreign lifestyles. There's nothing circular in what I am saying. If those minority of Armenian women didn't exist (that are adopting such lifestyles) this message wouldn't really be relevant.

I don't normally quote from politicians, but Ahmadinejad of Iran, today made a good point on the cultural situation in world:

b) The Cultural Situation:

From the standpoint of the politicians who control the world power centers,
concepts such as moral principles, purity, honesty, integrity, compassion and selfsacrifice are rejected as defunct and outdated notions, and an impediment to the
accomplishment of their goals. They openly talk about their disbelief in the relevance
of ethics to the political and social affairs.

Pure and indigenous cultures as the product of centuries - old efforts of
nations, the common denominator reflecting human profound feeling and love
towards beauties, and the force which breeds diversity, cultural vividness, and social
dynamism, are under constant attacks, and susceptible to extinction.

A specific life style devoid of individual or social identity is being imposed
on nations by organized and systematic destruction and humiliation of identities.
Family as the noblest institution of societies and a center emanating love and
humanity has been seriously weakened and its constructive role is on the decline.
Woman's sublime role and personality, as a heavenly being, a manifestation
of divine image and beauty, and the main pillar of every society, has been damaged
and abused by the powerful and the wealthy.

Human soul has become frustrated and the essence of humankind humiliated
and suppressed.

[Haykakan]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Your words are properly polished and each has its own meaning separately , but somehow, when you put them together, the whole thing doesn't carry even a tiniest organized idea/meaning, regarding the subject under discussion, my dear philosopher; "arajadem datarkaxos"! Therefore let me ignore the words.

In the end that is what hetamnats people do best-[B]ignore[B]reality and make up their own dreamworld which never existed and never will.