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  • #81
    Re: Armenia for Armenians

    Why can there never be civil discussions without some infernal name-calling thrown into the mix?
    Achkerov kute.

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    • #82
      Re: Armenia for Armenians

      Originally posted by Anonymouse View Post
      Why can there never be civil discussions without some infernal name-calling thrown into the mix?
      Would you go to a turkey farm and “tell” the turkey how wonderful Christmas dinner you have had.
      And then “tell” the turkey you are looking forward for next Christmas ...
      “Its really good you should look forward to it as well”.

      It seems some turkeys are so excited they will readily go for it.
      Last edited by londontsi; 11-18-2010, 10:21 AM.
      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • #83
        Re: Armenia for Armenians

        Originally posted by londontsi View Post
        Would you go to a turkey farm and “tell” the turkey how wonderful Christmas dinner you have had.
        And then “tell” the turkey you are looking forward for next Christmas ...
        “Its really good you should look forward to it as well”.

        It seems some turkeys are so excited they will readily go for it.
        Your missing the point. Don't get cute. My point goes for everybody.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #84
          Re: Armenia for Armenians

          Originally posted by Anonymouse View Post
          My point goes for everybody.


          From my comments it should be obvious I was ( through you ) addressing everybody also.
          Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
          Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
          Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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          • #85
            Re: Armenia for Armenians

            Iranians I have met have told me that many Iranians were not happy about converting to Islam 1000 years ago or so.
            There are secular Iranians and there must be others who are strict Muslims. According to some reports Iran has a lively underground art and fashion scene, where people experiment and try to fuse western/eastern styles.
            The western media has generally given Iran a negative image (positive news from Russia, Africa and some other parts of the world is also rare).
            This is driven by politics.
            I'm sure some Iranians can marry who they like and their parents support them in this decision. It all depends on the cultural attitudes of the particular family. Iranians living abroad probably have more freedom of choice
            Last edited by lampron; 11-18-2010, 03:36 PM.

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            • #86
              Re: Armenia for Armenians

              I'm sure the woman in Iran can get hanged if she marries a non-Muslim...
              Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
              ---
              "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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              • #87
                Re: Armenia for Armenians

                Originally posted by Mos View Post
                I'm sure the woman in Iran can get hanged if she marries a non-Muslim...
                How many Iranian women have been hanged for that so for?
                Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                • #88
                  Re: Armenia for Armenians

                  Well if state laws are governed by Sharia law, and it's strictly forbidden for women to marry non-muslim men, than the result is rather predictable...
                  Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
                  ---
                  "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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                  • #89
                    Re: Armenia for Armenians

                    Originally posted by Mos View Post
                    I'm sure the woman in Iran can get hanged if she marries a non-Muslim.....


                    Well if state laws are governed by Sharia law, and it's strictly forbidden for women to marry non-muslim men, than the result is rather predictable...
                    I think they should change the law and hang every Armenian man who has a "wish" to marry an Iranian woman.

                    And to be fair they should hang every Armenian woman who marries an Iranian man.

                    This is the only time I would "advocate" such a thing in addition to treachery ofcourse.
                    Last edited by londontsi; 11-21-2010, 11:38 AM.
                    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                    • #90
                      Re: Armenia for Armenians

                      I'm Iranian, atheist and I think you are a idiot. I have read some of your reactions in several topics and I think something as common sense is totally missing in your brains. You just keep throwing absurd claims in every topic on Iranians that I'm feeling forced to response on it.

                      You compare the situation in Europe with the situation in Armenia. I'm living in Europe (Netherlands) and you don't know where your talking about. The problem we have in Europe with immigrants, and I'm referring to the Netherlands now, is the fact that they have problems to integrate in this society. The problems we have is with major immigrant groups like the Turks and Moroccans. The fact that they have huge language problems, bad education, high crime rate, sitting on welfare and brought their intolerant religion, the Islam, here. In fact, the only non-western immigrant group who don't have a problem to integrate here (also in Germany, Sweden and Belgium) are the Iranians. More than 50% of the Iranian students attains a university. Even the Netherlanders can reach such kind of percentage. For all I know, the Iranians don't make such problems in your country. They don't profit on your community money, they don't rape your women and they don't have problems to integrate or accept the Armenian culture. Your talking about a bigger influence of Islam in Armenia. You showing that you don't know nothing about the Iranians. The Iranians aren't so religious as many people think they are. Especially in Iran the regime has ensured that many Iranians cherish a big aversion on religion. Only 1.4% of the Iranians attains Friday prayers and the mullah regime doesn't have any connection with the Iranian youth any more. Its absurd do think that the Iranians who go to Armenia to taste a little bit of freedom and escape Islamic morality bring the Islam with them to convert the Armenians.

                      Aren't you the one who keeps a great respect for the European culture? Being tolerant to other cultures is also a great value that is common here in Europe. The Netherlands wouldn't have had their empire if they didn't accept other cultures make a contribution to their country. In fact, thanks to the Sephardic J ews, French Huguenots and German Lutherans Holland had that kind of wealth in their golden age. Read Amy Chua's book on hyperpowers and why they were capable to create such kind of power. The key word is: tolerant.

                      "Amy Chua smartly condenses the complex histories of the Persian, Mughal, Dutch, and other empires into an irresistable argument: that empires expand through toleration and contract through close-mindedness. As with any shrewd and elaborate argument, the getting there is half the fun."
                      Then your talking about Iranian men who date Armenian girls. First of all, is it that the Armenian women have lost their sense and can't think on their own anymore? For all I know, all women are perfectly capable to reject any man if they want to. And if a Armenian girl wants to date a non-Armenian I think it's her decision and you have to respect that. And if you don't, you are behaving yourself like Mullahs who also talk about such moral nonsense.

                      Yeah, Armenia for Armenians. With that kind of mentality your fellow countrymen where denied to seek refuge in Iran when they were killed and oppressed in other countries. With that kind of anti-Iranian rhetoric you keep the Iranians away of your country and so you will destroy every form of economic relationship between the two countries/people. I think you are little bit of jealous. I wonder which country in the region would start that kind of relationship with Armenia. You don't have that many friends in the region, am I right? I don't want to offend you or other Armenians on this forum, who aren't so shortsighted and xenophobe like you are, but maybe you could show some respect.

                      Greetings to all sensible Armenians!
                      Last edited by Surenas; 01-20-2011, 09:19 PM.

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