Is YEV a letter?

[Stark Evade]

stark i know you have a crush on me now... i love you too hun...

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=evasion

[nunechka]

then lets say it is a letter and then close it... and yes maybe you should stop hallucinating like george bush...

[fIReBuRntInHeLL]

*counts the letters again* I got 38 here... you're not counting "yev" are you? My teacher told us many Armenians mistakingly consider "yev" a letter.

Jinx u r right "YEV" is not letter. Yev is like saying in english U V W X Y and Z.
Thats what it means! as an "AND" by ending the alphabet.

[nunechka]

fireburn read what i wrote above... i have clear examples of why it is a letter...

[Stark Evade]

then lets say it is a letter and then close it... and yes maybe you should stop hallucinating like george bush...

You act like you still believe it's a letter but you have no valid arguments left. I am sure you are now going to go and convince other people that it isn't a letter. I think we did a good deed here. Cheers to an Armenian unity!

[nunechka]

umm actually my dear stark, i have been the only with a REAL argument... i have not seen one single point made by anybody else...

i have been one of the only people to bring up FACTS and even use the letter in a word (not an abbriviation or shorthand)... but i have not gotten an single fact back from anyone else...

nunechka - all the points
everyone else - no point

so there it is... the only argument that makes me laugh is the TUVWXY and Z but you forget where the letter YEV is it isnt betweent he last letter and the one before last, it is: P K (YEV) O F... so next time you want to attempt at making a point, make sure you at least have the letters in the correct order... trust me hun... if you read what i wrote, then attempted the factoring of LOGIC into it, you would've never disagreed with me

i have a point, i made my point, and everyone else that disagreed NEVER had a point, NEVER had facts...

thanks for helping me make my point stark

[Stark Evade]

umm actually my dear stark, i have been the only with a REAL argument...

All your arguments were shot down because they made no sense.

i have not seen one single point made by anybody else...

Oh, so that's why you're still acting like a brat: you haven't been paying attention.

i have been one of the only people to bring up FACTS and even use the letter in a word (not an abbriviation or shorthand)... but i have not gotten an single fact back from anyone else...

nunechka - all the points
everyone else - no point

Wake up, little doggy. Come on.

so there it is... the only argument that makes me laugh is the TUVWXY and Z but you forget where the letter YEV is it isnt betweent he last letter and the one before last, it is: P K (YEV) O F... so next time you want to attempt at making a point, make sure you at least have the letters in the correct order... trust me hun... if you read what i wrote, then attempted the factoring of LOGIC into it, you would've never disagreed with me

This is the funniest (in a dumb way) thing I have read all day! And the irony of you using the word "logic" is the cherry on top. Oh brother!

i have a point, i made my point, and everyone else that disagreed NEVER had a point, NEVER had facts...

I hope you aren't Armenian. I really really do.

thanks for helping me make my point stark

*?* How did I do that exactly? I pointed out how wrong you were.

I'm done with this nonsense. I feel better knowing we've convinced you even though you still feel the need to act like you actually know something. A job well done.

[nunechka]

no one has "convinced" me of anything stark... you are incredibly rude... the question was asked, i gave my point of view and all you did was shoot it down... why dont you just give your point of view for ONCE and not insult someone...

you know if i also did not have anything to do in my day just like you, i would sit there and analyze what you have written, break it into little pieces like you did for my comments, and unfairly with a bias point of view critisize them...

i did not attack anyone, i defened myself against attacks on me... and you were one of the most malicious ones...

i believe that there is a yev in our alphabet because i was taught this in ARMENIA in school... how come from the schooling i got in Armenia i can read your armenian and understand you clearly when you speak, but you cant understand my armenian or read my armenian???

well i dont exactly know the answer to this, but apperantly the western armenian teachers felt that YOU couldnt read the poems from YEGHISHE CHARENTS the way that HE himself wrote it, so they had to translate it for you... but in Armenia we did NOT translate the writings from Grigor Zohrab for us into "eastern" armenian... well i guess the Armenian language and literature (grammer, spelling, and ALL THE BEAUTIFUL Letter including YEV) that i was taught in school in ARMENIA was inclusive of both east and west but maybe yours wasnt... well probably it wasnt since when i came here to the US thats what i was taugh in Armenian school...

i am not easily intimidated and forced into believe something just because you keep repeating your lies... just like bush and his lies... he kept saying al quada and iraq so much in one scentence that people started to think it was the same thing... but not the well taught people who knew better...

stark, if cant offer anything or contribute anything then please dont insult other people for their brave attempts at speaking out...

how old are you anyway? you are acting like a 10 years caught in a 30 year olds body...

have a wonderful day

[Siggie]

I am talking out of my ass. I haven't read anything Stark Evade or Baron Dants or ckBejug posted... or maybe I did and am choosing to ignore it so I can keep repeating things that have absolutely nothing to do with the word "yev." like the translation of certain literature from one dialect to another. Somehow I have become convinced that "shooting down" my arguments is in someway an incomplete task and that others are required to do more than that, like make chi kyufteh. Also I am using the tactic of claiming someone is being rude so I don't have to respond seriously to anything that person says because somehow I became convinced that people aren't smart enough to see that what I am posting is complete and utter bull nuggets. I hope Stark Evade will fall for the old "try and contribute something" routine and forget that he and the others did in fact bring up good points that I can't argue with because I don't know enough about it and because everything I say is based on rumors and both voluntary and involuntary ignorance.

I'm sorry... that was just too funny.

[xBaron Dants]

Actually nunechka, you haven't replied to anything that I've said.

Not to the fact that I've learned poems and read books in Eastern Armenian both in Syria and in Canada.

Not to the fact that I have actually lived and went to school in Syria, and some of my cousins continue to do so, and the situation never was the way you claim it were...

And also, for your bright little reply that the "yev" doesn't come right before the last letter like the "and" in english, it seems quite logical that it was added before the "O" because "O" and "Fe" were added later on, and were not in the original alphabet.

Anywho, is this "yev becoming a letter" thing one of the other brilliant decisions taken in 1922? Because you don't need to listen to us to know how ridiculous those changes were...Just ask Hrachya Ajarian, the most brilliant linguist we have ever had..