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Will you read the Quran in Armenian?

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  • #31
    I certainly don't see a reason or need for it. If some Armenians want to convert, let them read the Quran in other languages. Armenian script was created by Sourb Mashtots so that we Armenians could read THE BIBLE in our own language. Call me "hetamnats" if you will, but I think that giving in to the push to translate Quran into Armenian is like giving in to outside plans of spreading Islam in Armenia. As Catgirl said, we have the luxury of calling ourselves Armenian with a distinct culture because we were Christian. And don't forget that oceans of blood were spilled, starting from Mamikonian's struggle to recent events, so that we could keep our faith.
    Last edited by karoaper; 08-01-2005, 03:10 PM.

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    • #32
      Trust me, Jehovah Witnesses are enough, we don’t need Muslim Armenians.
      There are thousands of hamshein Armenians living in Turkey and we are not going to reject them just because Islam doesn't suit to your and of some other people's aesthetics.

      so that we Armenians could read THE BIBLE in our own language
      Armenian alphabet was created so we can write in our own language and in order to preserve ourselves as a nation.That is the only reason that we converted first to christianity as well.For preservetion , and to prevent assimilation.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Diar Dants
        How do you explain that Armenians in Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Iraq, Iran or even in Europe and North America where the Coran is very present have not converted yet?
        Completely irrelevant!

        All the countries you named are Muslim countries... There are Armenians actually who have converted and married persians, Arabs, etc.... and their conversion not only doesn't cause problems but it even brings them closer to the country they live in. It's not the same for a small Christian country, such as Armenia. Karoaper summed up pretty much what I was gonna say. If an Armenian is REALLY interested in reading the Quran, s/he can purchase it in English or other main languages it's translated into. No need to translate it into Armenian and spread it all over Armenia. As I said, in the long run, this is gonna hurt us.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by karoaper
          Call me "hetamnats" if you will,
          Hetamnats.



          Catwoman, what about people who want to read it just for the heck of it? Or Armenians who are interested in theology?

          Pierre Elliot Trudeau once said "open the windows, Quebec is suffocating", referring to the close-mindedness and the stagnation that Quebec lived under the omnipresence of the Church. I dare not imagine what kind of backward country Armenia would become if mentalities like yours took over..

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Diar Dants
            Catwoman, what about people who want to read it just for the heck of it? Or Armenians who are interested in theology?
            I think I've already answered that.

            Originally posted by Diar Dants
            Pierre Elliot Trudeau once said "open the windows, Quebec is suffocating", referring to the close-mindedness and the stagnation that Quebec lived under the omnipresence of the Church.
            Dude, translating the Quran into Armenian is NOT "open-mindedness".... I never said they can't sell the Quran in Armenia. They can have it in English for people truly interested.

            Originally posted by Diar Dants
            I dare not imagine what kind of backward country Armenia would become if mentalities like yours took over..
            First of, don't disrespect me by calling my mentality backwards. To tell the truth, I'm more scared of the consequences of your kind, who call themselves "opnen minded" ever taking over...

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            • #36
              We survived as a distinct ethnic group in the Ottoman Empire because we were Christians. Armenians who died in the Genocide died for their religion. They would have lived if they had converted to Islam...

              I wonder how they would have felt if they had seen the Koran in Armenian.


              However, this would be useful if we give Armenian Korans to those Hamshentsi girls instead of Turkish Korans.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by CatWoman
                I think I've already answered that.


                Dude, translating the Quran into Armenian is NOT "open-mindedness".... I never said they can't sell the Quran in Armenia. They can have it in English for people truly interested.


                First of, don't disrespect me by calling my mentality backwards. To tell the truth, I'm more scared of the consequences of your kind, who call themselves "opnen minded" ever taking over...

                Wow, how dare anyone ever decide using their own mind that they want to read a piece of literature in their own language. Oh the horror!
                Achkerov kute.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Diar Dants
                  Hetamnats.
                  doh


                  Originally posted by Diar Dants
                  Catwoman, what about people who want to read it just for the heck of it? Or Armenians who are interested in theology?
                  I think that, in itself, it's an ok idea. But, most Armenians still haven't read the Astvatsashunch. So, skipping straight to Quran is a bit too rich. I'm not hard up on resisting it either, but as I said I see no good reason or need for it except for "Ailazg" parties' desire to spread Islam in Armenia. As far as academics or theology aficionados are concerned, let them learn Arabic and read Quran, after all it will make for a much more authentic experience.

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                  • #39
                    Wow, bible in Turkish is sold everywhere, every bookstore and is translated to Turkish at before 19th century. And you still afraid to translate and ban the book of worlds second big religion. Well, I know your freedom and democracy idea so it is not surprising me. You are the ones who critisize Turkey about freedom? I

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                    • #40
                      I can read Bible in Turkish, I can read Dadrian in Turkish, but when someone critisize your genocide stereotypes you blackmail Switzerland to arrest him. You can murder Turkish diplomats just because they do not agree with you. Oh sorry, everything about history is talked before so there is no need for any kind of communication about "genocide", isn't it? "
                      Turks committed genocide to Armenians, Amen"
                      Just try to learn some democracy, freedom, civil rights instead of supporting the fascist regime at Yerevan. If you continue go with the mentality of your gang leader Kocaryan, Armenia's future doesn't seem clear.

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