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u r idiot my friend. When I am talking about reality you escape!
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Heh.
turkishforces, I'm afraid your examples are fraught with error.
The United States cannot pay reparations to the Vietnamese because they all fell to the Communist regime, which was an enemy to the United States and would refuse to accept any reparations because they would claim that it would be used for "imperialist" purposes. Today, the United States looks upon its invasion of Vietnam with shame, but there is no one to pay reparations to.USA killed 2 million Vietnamese and even used chimical weapons on them and paid nothing.
The United States was in a state of war with Japan. Therefore, there can be no need for reparations to pay because the USA and Japan were locked in a formal war, and Japan was the loser. According to the treaty after World War II, the Japanese agreed to having a minimal army and they accepted American supervision over the reconstruction of Japan. So we don't need to pay reparations to Japan because we've already discussed the matters in a treaty and fulfilled the clauses. However, the Japanese Americans that were put in Internment camps ARE BEING GIVEN reparations for mistreatment.USA killed 200.000 japonese by nuclear weapon and paid nothing.
The United States is aware of its mistreatment of Native Americans, but today most Native Americans have assimilated into the American lifestyle. Those left have been given their reservations to live on. Those that have Native American backgrounds are elligble for special scholarships or aid when pursuing education. You are, however, correct that the actions taken against the Native Americans were near genocidal.USA killed millions of native americans and took their country and paid nothing.
Two things. First of all, Spain doesn't own any land in America anymore, so be sure to check a history book dated after 1600. Second, the Aztecs, Mayans, Olmecs, and Incas have all dissappeared. Even if Spain (or Mexico?) did want to pay reparations there would be no one to pay them to because they have all been eliminated. However, most of the Mexican population which is already Mestizo, which means they have Native American ancestory. It would be sadly ironic for a government to pay its own citizens for a crime thier ancestors committed, don't you think?Spain killed 20.000.000 native american in 1600s, took their country and paid nothing.
Are you asking about reparations to the inquisition? Who is responsible for the inquisition? Was it the Catholic church, or Spain, or some crazed ministers? Who would you pay the reparations to? Every single muslim on Earth? The Catholic church has already apologized for the inquisition.Spain killed thousands of muslim in Spain and paid nothing.
Wrong! The Germans have acknowledged their history and to this day pay the Jews and other minorities reparations for past injustices. We want Turkey to do the same for Armenia.Germans killed 6.000.000 jewish and paid nothing.
Wrong! The United States did not invade Texas. American immigrants had settled in Texas over the years, and eventually they decided to rebel to form an independent Republic. Texas remained the Lone Star Republic for years before being annexed by the United States. As for the other states, again the United States declared war on those states. They didn't do any ethnic cleansing. The United States then bought whatever extra land they wanted from Mexico (see: Gadsden Purchase). Reparations aren't paid to losers of war.USA took California, New Mexico, Arizone and Texas from Mexico and paid nothing.
It may interest you to know that Israel is still in an informal state of war with the entire Islamic world. Also, for every Arab Israel has killed, an Israeli civilian has been killed by a suicide bomber. You're just presenting a ridiculous double standard. How do you pay reparations to someone when you are still busy fighting them?Israel killed and still killing many arabs and took their country and paid nothing.
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Whew! That's enough time wasted talking to a brick wall. I'd address your other points but I'm afraid I'm just wasting my breath here and I'm bound to offend someone else by accident. So just rest assured that the Republic of Turkey, since it constantly fuels denialism, has good cause to offer reparations to elligble Armenian families.Comment
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I guess you might find your answer for that particular one if you post it in this thread ...Originally posted by turkishforces
Right guys ??
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That is a very good idea!!!!Originally posted by maral_m79I guess you might find your answer for that particular one if you post it in this thread ...
Right guys ??
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I think your reality and my reality are completely different. Let’s say even if no one paid or got punished for their crimes, does it mean they are innocent? Whatever you are talking about is not our problem; let everyone else solve their own problem. Our problem is Turkey, and that’s what we are trying to deal with.Originally posted by turkishforces
Got it Mr. Beynamaz?Comment
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Krunchy ... post the above said, in this thread , by tomorrow someone would be availibe to answer youOriginally posted by Krunchy
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This is a direct personal insult. Read the forum rules. Consider this your warning...Originally posted by turkishforcesComment
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You are right
Yes you are right I shouldnot have insulted. I made a mistake.Comment
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Your insult got you warned and your signature got you banned.Originally posted by turkishforcesComment
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Freedom, that was a figure of speech. My point was that both Israel and Palestine are responsible for the deaths of innocent civilians, so the idea of reparations (proposed by turkishforces) is absolutely ridiculous. Then Krunchy asked me to clarify what I said, so I did. We could argue for days on this issue, but for the sake of staying on topic, let's not.
My point is that turkishforces is trying to justify Turkey's refusal to pay reparations by bringing up other non-applicable issues, and I'm trying to prove him wrong.Comment
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