What should Turkey be proud of?

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: What should Turkey be proud of?

Who do you think you are kidding!

The purpose of this thread is to make foul, racist attacks against Turks, there are no Turks that you are friends with (you just tolerate them for a few posts until they say something you disagree with), almost eveyone here hates Turks and looks down on them as an ethnic group.

Oh is that so Bell? I am friends with, and so is the maker of this thread with
Arda and No Pasaran, when people starting posting negative racial based comments towards Turks I immediately contacted May to see if she was allright.
But yeah, go raibh maith agat for that man

But now you, lets put you under the judgemental light quickly, you like attacking people for your own callous amusement which is cruel and sad, you have been temporarily banned before for that very reason need I remind you.
In addition, you while seemingly recognizing the Armenian Genocide, spare no attempt to insult Armenians.

Do you even know the original poster of this thread?
Hmm, that would be Saco, remember the dude who started the Turkish conversation thread? Well in addition, we are working on a website about the Armenian Genocide but also to bring Turks and Armenians closer together and make peace, but you couldn't bother finding that out, you instead need to attack left, right and center, which I am sorry shows a pedantic, cruel and leather tongue egotism behind your posts.

[seruven]

Re: What should Turkey be proud of?

From the beginning, I had suspicions about this thread. Saco, Turks sent the signals that this thread won't be as fruitful as you wished it to be.
Whatever your intentions are, Armenians in the forum are not interested in what Turkey should be proud of and they, including you, constantly compare Armenia and Turkey.
Check the posts and see how many times people mentioned Armenia which has nothing to do with the topic.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: What should Turkey be proud of?

Okay, I'll start :

Orhan Pamuk, a brilliant writer of Turkish descent
Turkey's top teams include Galatasaray, Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş. In 2000,

Galatasaray cemented its role as a major European club by winning the UEFA Cup and UEFA Super Cup.

Fatih Akın (August 25, 1973 in Hamburg, Germany) is a European Film Award winning German film director of Turkish descent

rán Eory (Elvira Teresa Eory Sidi) was born to an Austrian father and a Turkish mother of xxxish descent on October 21, 1937 in Tehran, Iran. Irán was given as the screen name for her, because it suggests her birth country. Irán was raised in Spain, where she learned Spanish, and entered a beauty contest in Monaco, distinguished by Prince Rainier. She started her acting career before emigrating to Mexico in the late 1960s, to become an actress, singer, and a theatre producer. Iràn Eory died in Mexico City, Mexico on March 10, 2002, she was buried in Panteón de Las Lomas, Mexico City.

Safranbolu is a town and district of Karabük Province in the Black Sea region of Turkey. Its location can be roughly described as about two hundred kilometers north of Ankara and about a hundred kilometers south of the Black Sea coast, or more precisely as about 9 kilometers north of the city of Karabük. Former Turkish names of her were Zalifre and Taraklıborlu. According to the 2000 census, population of the district is 47,257 of which 31,697 live in the town of Safranbolu.[1][2] The district covers an area of 1,000 km2 (386 sq mi),[3] and the town lies at an elevation of 485 m (1,591 ft).

The Old Town preserves many old buildings, with 1008 registered historical artifacts. These are: 1 private museum, 25 mosques, 5 tombs, 8 historical fountains, 5 Turkish baths, 3 caravanserais, 1 historical clock tower, 1 sundial and hundreds of houses and mansions. Also there are mounds of ancient settlements, rock tombs and historical bridges. The Old Town is situated in a deep ravine in a fairly dry area in the rain shadow of the mountains. The New Town can be found on the plateau about two kilometers west of the Old Town.

The name of the town derives from saffron, since Safranbolu was a trading place and a center for growing saffron.Today saffron is still alive at the village of Davutobası which is 22 km.east of Safranbolu and probably one of the best quality saffron at the world.

Safranbolu was added to the list of UNESCO World Heritage sites in 1994 due to its well-preserved Ottoman era houses and architecture.

[Sako]

Re: What should Turkey be proud of?

Who do you think you are kidding!

The purpose of this thread is to make foul, racist attacks against Turks, there are no Turks that you are friends with (you just tolerate them for a few posts until they say something you disagree with), almost everyone here hates Turks and looks down on them as an ethnic group.

Cat's usually cover up their crap after xxxxting, if I'm not mistaken. This forum isn't a freakin dirt patch, kittycat.

If after all this time, you still think I hate Turks, you are the greatest imbecile I have ever had the misfortune of meeting. And I thought black cats were bad...

From the beginning, I had suspicions about this thread. Saco, Turks sent the signals that this thread won't be as fruitful as you wished it to be.
Whatever your intentions are, Armenians in the forum are not interested in what Turkey should be proud of and they, including you, constantly compare Armenia and Turkey. Check the posts and see how many times people mentioned Armenia which has nothing to do with the topic.

Seruven, please don't try to turn this on me. It is only out of respect for you that I don't say much. The only reason Armenia is even mentioned is because Armenia was brought up on different occasions and not by me first. I asked Turks to answer. Because I am Armenian, it doesn't mean I have to be nationalistic. I asked a question from deep down and for three reasons, the third I didn't mention. I will now so certain losers won't doubt my ambition. And also remember that Armenia was talked about in a degrading and wrong way so NATURALLY Armenians began to talk about Armenia. If everyone answered my little question, we might all be learning something now instead of proving that I don't want to throw xxxxtails at Turks and see them burn alive . You don't know me enough Seruven otherwise you wouldn't even think of blaming or doubting my intentions. Finally, if someone asks kindly about your country NO MATTER WHO HE IS, I think a normal person would feel obliged to respond regardless of who may think what. Especially when the questioner CLEARLY SAID that his question was not political.
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For a long time, a lot of members and people from many different countries have joined me in finishing a massive project, a project that will throw a new light on many different issues and bring people from all parts of the world together. We are creating a place where what you think, believe, and feel matters more then where you are from or what you have been taught, or what caste you belong to, etc.

I wanted to present Turkey and Armenia, politics aside, in a very informative, educational, fun, and exciting way. For that, I needed facts about Turkey. There is a page where the great facts about both countries is mentioned but I realized me and many people alike don't know much about Turkey's good sides. I know a few great facts but the rest I didn't have a clue about.

Why didn't I look in books? Simple, I was afraid of being mislead like millions of Turks.

That's why I asked the Turks and anyone who knows anything about Turkey, to give me some first hand facts. If someone was saying something wrong, other members could say so and I'd be more reassured that the facts were true. Instead, everyone bowed out. I don't care why. If we stayed on point, nothing would've happened.

Turks, Armenians, Mexicans, Irishmen, etc. alike have come together one more time to try and make a difference. And I don't give a xxxx what Turks or Armenians alike will think and I ask the Turks not to care either. No Armenian should feel obliged to putting down Turkey or diminishing it's face and nor should any Turk be obliged to touch Armenia. WE MUST DAMAGE THOSE WHO DESERVE IT, NOT ALL TURKS ALIKE. Anyone who doesn't think that way is not welcome into our midst and I'm not afraid to say into my country.

This is why I asked this question, knowing that it would be hard getting what I want. Still think we're racist, kitty? Maybe because you have no freakin friends, it's hard for you to imagine Armenians and Turks finally working together. Go lick yourself, you stink.
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THAT is my intention. Think what you will, say what you will, feel what you will. We've been so busy thinking about what everyone thinks that we forget what we think and what we truly believe deep down in our hearts. How well our plan will work is not known, what is known is our intention, what we want truly, and how hard we are trying. In the end, THAT'S what matters. You go on thinking, we'll be on the other side trying to make a difference while you call us racists. *Bows out*

[Sako]

Re: What should Turkey be proud of?

Great facts there Pedro. A Mexican/Irishmen gives me facts about Turkey instead of Turks, lol. Thanks.

[seruven]

Re: What should Turkey be proud of?

With all due respect Saco, it was so obvious that this topic would be a controversial one. I don't intend to question you sincerity, however you react with your emotions/instincts as other members do.
..and why to use such a language with bell-the-cat?

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: What should Turkey be proud of?

With all due respect Saco, it was so obvious that this topic would be a controversial one. I don't intend to question you sincerity, however you react with your emotions/instincts as other members do.
..and why to use such a language with bell-the-cat?

Why does Bell the Cat, use such foul and demeaning terms with other people, explain that to us, and we can give you an answer.

And being fair, Bell does incite such emotions, he has regularly baited people to attack them, also Seruven, go check the previous page, a dude basically came in here saying Armenians had no culture and did not matter, how would you feel?

That said, know that everyone who actually contributed had the best of intentions with this thread, Saco and I have been working on this site with other members of this board (Turkish and Armenian) and its primarily for research, I can understand that you might think someone had bad intentions because there have been members in this thread who have been over nationalistic and near fascist, don't get me wrong, but it really isn't like it that

[seruven]

Re: What should Turkey be proud of?

@Pedro
I'm not acquainted with Bell's posts, but I've the impression that he uses a blunt language which doesn't care to be polite, reminding Palavra's. But don't think he deserves such a treatment. Anyway, I may not be knowledgeable enough to make comments over the language preferred by Saco for the cat.

As for the post in the previous page, I couldn't find the one you mentioned. But we don't need to turn this thread into a mass, just because someone appeared and wrote irrelavant and provoking things. Let's just be calm.
Regards,
S.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: What should Turkey be proud of?

@Pedro
I'm not acquainted with Bell's posts, but I've the impression that he uses a blunt language which doesn't care to be polite, reminding Palavra's. But don't think he deserves such a treatment. Anyway, I may not be knowledgeable enough to make comments over the language preferred by Saco for the cat.

As for the post in the previous page, I couldn't find the one you mentioned. But we don't need to turn this thread into a mass, just because someone appeared and wrote irrelavant and provoking things. Let's just be calm.
Regards,
S.

Fair enough I agree Seruven, good point. Everyone else agree lets be civil from now on then with each other?

[ArmSurvival]

Re: What should Turkey be proud of?

Yerevan is recognisably a European city, it has everything one would expect of such a city (with the exception of democracy).

Ah yes, good old democratic Europe. A place where over 80% of the population in almost every country was opposed to the EU constitution but it was still ratified by every parliament on the continent. The only reason it didn't pass is because Europe still has one true democracy left which actually let their people decide--- Ireland. So lets not attribute "democracy" to Europe just because half of an island off its shores uses it.



And Phantom, Palestine was not a "wasteland" before the European atheists colonized it. Many sectors of their economy were more advanced in pre-1948 than they were in the 1990s (farming, for example). Its a myth that Palestinians had not developed the land prior to colonization--- even Zionist leaders themselves who visited Palestine in the 1920s and 30s said they were amazed that the country was so abundant.