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  • gegev
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    Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

    a)
    Originally posted by gegev View Post
    Do you agree that?;

    1. Obama will withdraw the US troops out of Iraq, because it costs milliards of dollars to America and in current situation US cannot afford it. Cutting down military expenses would enable America to fight the economic crisis a little bit effectively.

    2. After the US troops are back home. Who will insure that US interests in Iraq (oil reserves, etc.) are handled in the way America wants; the pro Iranian Shias, Sunis or the Federative Republic of Iraq?

    The only answer is; the Kurdish Republic of Iraq! Because united (Federative) Iraq is impossible to maintain after US troop’s withdrawal.

    3. After making the Kurdish Republic of Iraq America’s successor in Iraq, which is inevitable, Turkey will consider US as its #1 enemy.

    Note please that in past, when Turks refused Americans suggestion to use their military bases against Iraq; means that the AG recognition by USA was not that a big threat for Turkey.

    4. But now US has stronger means to keep Turks in obedience. After passing the AG bill in Congress Obama may terrify Turks telling that, after the AG bill is passed, there are all legal and justifiable arguments in place to start, together with EU and other countries, AG compensation procedure under UN auspices.

    Under that threat Turkey will agree with everything USA and EU suggest, to keep the lands of the perished under its control, a little bit longer.

    What happened to France-Turkish relations after passing the Armenian Genocide bill … nothing! Now Turks are handling their politics with France more cautiously and politely, than ever before.

    The same thing will happen to US-Turkey relations, after a week of bitter cries and barking, Turks will express their readiness to do everything the bosses require, providing that the AG compensation process is frozen for a while.

    Regards,

    Gegev
    b)
    Originally posted by Gavur View Post
    Along with most of us stand I resolute in our hopes, i go along with gegev's very good analysis.
    c)
    Originally posted by ferdi2
    Gegev's analysis reminds me of a funny T-shirt caption I saw whilst walking by a healthy young girl in Bagdat Caddesi (an upscale shopping district in Istanbul). It said: "IMPOSSIBLE WISH".
    d)
    Originally posted by gegev View Post
    This guy reminds me one of the Azeri “Army” solders, who fled from Artsakh battle field to Istanbul. His ancestors could kill only unarmed people. Therefore this became an Internet solder; it must be much safer, I understand; this is the typical “brave” behavior for the kind of creatures; instead of trying to bring counterarguments or fighting, if possible.

    I remind you that the subject under discussion below is not the “cow” you mentioned. I’m former math teacher and I know the kind of children who talks around, not about, the subject.
    e)
    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    And you, gegev, remind me of an agent provocateur.
    You remind me nothing unbiased.

    Gegev
    Last edited by gegev; 04-18-2009, 09:19 PM.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

    Originally posted by gegev View Post
    This guy reminds me one of the Azeri “Army” solders, who fled from Artsakh battle field to Istanbul. His ancestors could kill only unarmed people. Therefore this became an Internet solder; it must be much safer, I understand; this is the typical “brave” behavior for the kind of creatures; instead of trying to bring counterarguments or fighting, if possible.

    I remind you that the subject under discussion below is not the “cow” you mentioned. I’m former math teacher and I know the kind of children who talks around, not about, the subject.
    And you, gegev, remind me of an agent provocateur.

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  • gegev
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    Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

    Originally posted by ferdi2
    Gegev's analysis reminds me of a funny T-shirt caption I saw whilst walking by a healthy young girl in Bagdat Caddesi (an upscale shopping district in Istanbul). It said: "IMPOSSIBLE WISH".
    This guy reminds me one of the Azeri “Army” solders, who fled from Artsakh battle field to Istanbul. His ancestors could kill only unarmed people. Therefore this became an Internet solder; it must be much safer, I understand; this is the typical “brave” behavior for the kind of creatures; instead of trying to bring counterarguments or fighting, if possible.

    I remind you that the subject under discussion below is not the “cow” you mentioned. I’m former math teacher and I know the kind of children who talks around, not about, the subject.

    Originally posted by gegev View Post
    Do you agree that?;

    1. Obama will withdraw the US troops out of Iraq, because it costs milliards of dollars to America and in current situation US cannot afford it. Cutting down military expenses would enable America to fight the economic crisis a little bit effectively.

    2. After the US troops are back home. Who will insure that US interests in Iraq (oil reserves, etc.) are handled in the way America wants; the pro Iranian Shias, Sunis or the Federative Republic of Iraq?

    The only answer is; the Kurdish Republic of Iraq! Because united (Federative) Iraq is impossible to maintain after US troop’s withdrawal.

    3. After making the Kurdish Republic of Iraq America’s successor in Iraq, which is inevitable, Turkey will consider US as its #1 enemy.

    Note please that in past, when Turks refused Americans suggestion to use their military bases against Iraq; means that the AG recognition by USA was not that a big threat for Turkey.

    4. But now US has stronger means to keep Turks in obedience. After passing the AG bill in Congress Obama may terrify Turks telling that, after the AG bill is passed, there are all legal and justifiable arguments in place to start, together with EU and other countries, AG compensation procedure under UN auspices.

    Under that threat Turkey will agree with everything USA and EU suggest, to keep the lands of the perished under its control, a little bit longer.

    What happened to France-Turkish relations after passing the Armenian Genocide bill … nothing! Now Turks are handling their politics with France more cautiously and politely, than ever before.

    The same thing will happen to US-Turkey relations, after a week of bitter cries and barking, Turks will express their readiness to do everything the bosses require, providing that the AG compensation process is frozen for a while.

    Regards,

    Gegev
    Last edited by gegev; 04-17-2009, 01:44 AM.

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  • Gavur
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    Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

    Originally posted by ferdi2
    So eager in fact that they've sent the leader of the worlds only super power, Obama, to address the Turkish Parliament and backslap and shake hands with its leaders.
    Yes and he backslepped their necks and fingered their behind,the lot of them.

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  • Gavur
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    Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

    Originally posted by ferdi2
    Gegev's analysis reminds me of a funny T-shirt caption I saw whilst walking by a healthy young girl in Bagdat Caddesi (an upscale shopping district in Istanbul). It said: "IMPOSSIBLE WISH".
    It must of been a gigantic t-shirt

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  • Gavur
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    Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

    Along with most of us stand I resolute in our hopes, i go along with gegev's very good analysis.

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  • gegev
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    Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

    Originally posted by hipeter924 View Post
    Its obvious, don't you see? Obama says he will recognize the genocide , but in reality he will never.

    Obama will make statements saying it occurred, perhaps he will even allow the bill to go through congress but he will not actively support the bill and just like the one under the Bush administration it will fail.

    As I thought all along Obama is just Clinton v1.1. he lies and takes your votes because it gets him elected.

    PS: If I am wrong...which seems unlikely...I will be happy...but all this meeting shows is that Obama is weakening to Turkey and will not support the Armenian Genocide Recognition bill through congress.
    Do you agree that?;

    1. Obama will withdraw the US troops out of Iraq, because it costs milliards of dollars to America and in current situation US cannot afford it. Cutting down military expenses would enable America to fight the economic crisis a little bit effectively.

    2. After the US troops are back home. Who will insure that US interests in Iraq (oil reserves, etc.) are handled in the way America wants; the pro Iranian Shias, Sunis or the Federative Republic of Iraq?

    The only answer is; the Kurdish Republic of Iraq! Because united (Federative) Iraq is impossible to maintain after US troop’s withdrawal.

    3. After making the Kurdish Republic of Iraq America’s successor in Iraq, which is inevitable, Turkey will consider US as its #1 enemy.

    Note please that in past, when Turks refused Americans suggestion to use their military bases against Iraq; means that the AG recognition by USA was not that a big threat for Turkey.

    4. But now US has stronger means to keep Turks in obedience. After passing the AG bill in Congress Obama may terrify Turks telling that, after the AG bill is passed, there are all legal and justifiable arguments in place to start, together with EU and other countries, AG compensation procedure under UN auspices.

    Under that threat Turkey will agree with everything USA and EU suggest, to keep the lands of the perished under its control, a little bit longer.

    What happened to France-Turkish relations after passing the Armenian Genocide bill … nothing! Now Turks are handling their politics with France more cautiously and politely, than ever before.

    The same thing will happen to US-Turkey relations, after a week of bitter cries and barking, Turks will express their readiness to do everything the bosses require, providing that the AG compensation process is frozen for a while.

    Regards,

    Gegev
    Last edited by gegev; 04-13-2009, 05:04 AM.

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  • hipeter924
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    Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

    Originally posted by gegev View Post
    You are right. The Superpower’s head backslapped the Turks, after telling them the very things, that they had been begging; not to speak about aloud, for a long time. Then Obama had a super-supper with them.
    Its obvious, don't you see? Obama says he will recognize the genocide , but in reality he will never.

    Obama will make statements saying it occurred, perhaps he will even allow the bill to go through congress but he will not actively support the bill and just like the one under the Bush administration it will fail.

    As I thought all along Obama is just Clinton v1.1. he lies and takes your votes because it gets him elected.

    PS: If I am wrong...which seems unlikely...I will be happy...but all this meeting shows is that Obama is weakening to Turkey and will not support the Armenian Genocide Recognition bill through congress.

    Leave a comment:


  • gegev
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    Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

    Originally posted by ferdi2
    So eager in fact that they've sent the leader of the worlds only super power, Obama, to address the Turkish Parliament and backslap and shake hands with its leaders.
    You are right. The Superpower’s head backslapped the Turks, after telling them the very things, that they had been begging; not to speak about aloud, for a long time. Then Obama had a super-supper with them.
    Last edited by gegev; 04-09-2009, 12:18 PM.

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  • hrai
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    Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

    Originally posted by ferdi2
    So eager in fact that they've sent the leader of the worlds only super power, Obama, to address the Turkish Parliament and backslap and shake hands with its leaders.
    Actually the realtor has just sent in his surveyor.

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