Genocide

[Joseph]

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The problem is I cant find any independent sources, 20 countries accepted the genocide and rest didn't and I cant decide so fast because it is really hard to tell our grand-grand-granpas barbaric and still believe they are muslim or turkish but like I said before politicians denied the genocide and now if they apologize they'll look like idiots and like me %75 of turkish people doesnt know if it really happened or it didnt..

Like I wrote before. The Germans are the best source. If you want, you can discount all others. They witnessed everything firsthand.

[Federate]

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And if you read my previous message I said our government should apologize if there was a genocide or not because we've got really hard on you and I hate Tayyip Erdoğan too he is an Islamic fashist I mean we are muslim but we are also secular.I for myself vote for MHP and Devlet Bahceli..

Not to go off-topic too much but this strikes me as rather strange. You hate Erdogan because you accuse him of being a fascist yet you say you vote for the MHP which is a fascist organisation

[UrMistake]

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What i really meant by brainwashed is that whole the world recognize the genocide so by u whole world is brainwashed.
"were taking good care" what is that mean?
Turkey is the first country that punished and recognized the genocide,u comlitly egnore the fact of the past attempts?
In reality turkey scared of losing another part of here and had pressures by the relocated Turks from Balkans.
Armenia never attacked turkey,Armenian first republic were in 1918 after the genocide.
Greece Bulgaria Serbia all of them had help by foreign countries.Russia then had its own agenda the fact that in its army were partisipating Armenians this do not justifies u nor the genocide.
Me as you say in that time had no face to be represented.
The fact that armenians will fight is cause the anatolia is part of historic armenia which turks even after the events got them by stealing it and making agreements with russians.
U would keep the land and ours,so today we would be happy. Treaty of Sčvres.
But no this time ur new leader Ataturk thinks that the Treaty of Sčvres don't suite him so he starts a new war and this time its called Turkish-Armenian War.
U oppressed a nation that wanted its freedom u denied its rights,start a war stole land genocide the people,after that camed Mr.Ataturk with his qoute,"Now Turkey will belonge only to the Turks"Watching the burning of armenian quarter in Smyrna.
He were aware of the genocide and what it meant to its own people.

[Joseph]

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Not to go off-topic too much but this strikes me as rather strange. You hate Erdogan because you accuse him of being a fascist yet you say you vote for the MHP which is a fascist organisation

I was thinking the same thing.

[alpixoid]

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You can give me all the "false proof" you want and say it never happened or you don't know but I am 100% sure it did happened. How do I know? My great grandmother, who is still alive today at 98, was in the Genocide. The stories she told me were not something to forget. She lost her baby sister because of your people.

Well now i thought about what you said and I kinda convinced about what you said and I asked my grandpa about it and he said that it was true but also he told me in WWI you attacked us with all the countries and a lot of consuls died because of you and I am not that mad about and I dont see why you are?Our prime-minister even came to visit you to soften things up and I think that shouldnt be pushed like I said before let history be history and we should be a confederacy instead of enemies from now on...

[Siggie]

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The problem is I cant find any independent sources, 20 countries accepted the genocide and rest didn't and I cant decide so fast because it is really hard to tell our grand-grand-granpas barbaric and still believe they are muslim or turkish but like I said before politicians denied the genocide and now if they apologize they'll look like idiots and like me %75 of turkish people doesnt know if it really happened or it didnt..

If some countries' (e.g. US) governments do not officially recognize what happened as "Genocide" does not make it untrue. Those decisions are motivated by politics.

[Pazooki]

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Well now i thought about what you said and I kinda convinced about what you said and I asked my grandpa about it and he said that it was true but also he told me in WWI you attacked us with all the countries and a lot of consuls died because of you and I am not that mad about and I dont see why you are?Our prime-minister even came to visit you to soften things up and I think that shouldnt be pushed like I said before let history be history and we should be a confederacy instead of enemies from now on...

We didn't attack anyone. If Armenians did attack you it was only the ones in the Russian army or ones in the other armies.Armenia itself did not attack you.

[Federate]

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Alpixoid, every kind of neutral and reliable source you need is found on the Internet. Let me scratch the surface here and ask you what you think of Raphael Lemkin? In case you do not know who he is, he is the man who invented the word 'genocide'. What prompted him to invent the word were his studies on the Armenian Genocide!

I mean if that's not enough, the International Association of Genocide Scholars unanimously recognise the events as a genocide. Everything you need can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide

[alpixoid]

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Not to go off-topic too much but this strikes me as rather strange. You hate Erdogan because you accuse him of being a fascist yet you say you vote for the MHP which is a fascist organisation

Well even if they are a little fascist they are really better than Erdoğan...And sorry to go off topic..

[alpixoid]

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We didn't attack anyone. If Armenians did attack you it was only the ones in the Russian army or ones in the other armies.Armenia itself did not attack you.

Because there was no Armenia back then..