Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

[hipeter924]

Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

It actually saved lives by not prolonging the war, probably saved millions of lives.

Exactly. There could have been another way. But then all they could think of was starving millions of Japanese to death or allowing the Soviet Union to capture some of mainland Japan (which would have happened had the US tried a land invasion, in fact the stats were there to show the first invasion force would have failed). The war would have taken many more years with a land invasion. The bomb wasn't the best way but the only way they could think of at the time.

[Gavur]

Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

Apart from the above, I'd like to remind firat that if the Japanese didn't bomb Pearl Harbour unexpectedly, fiercely and viciously, Americans whouldn't have bombed them. The Japs did a real number on American personnel and ships and very unexpectedly. At the time, America wanted to show them not to fool around with the US, that America is not asleep.

It actually saved lives by not prolonging the war, probably saved millions of lives.

[Anoush]

Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

No. There is a significant difference between the notion of racial superiority and moral superiority. The difference being one side has committed more acts of goodness than the other.

As for America:

3. Atomic Bombings. Don't even go there. Japanese don't like what happened there, and can get angry over it sometimes. But they don't hate the USA. You are not Japanese therefore you have no right to claim what even the Japanese don't claim themselves.

Apart from the above, I'd like to remind firat that if the Japanese didn't bomb Pearl Harbour unexpectedly, fiercely and viciously, Americans whouldn't have bombed them. The Japs did a real number on American personnel and ships and very unexpectedly. At the time, America wanted to show them not to fool around with the US, that America is not asleep.

5. Now you are going into current Issues. I like this. Democracy lesson for you:

Thus do not suggest that the war on Iraq was agreed by the majority as it wasn't. It was ruled on by a minority. Thus as such trying to claim most Americans are criminal is false. Most American's didn't vote for it. Only that select 25.5 to 40%.

America went into war after 9/11. They went to war against terrorism. Out of the 100 senators who previously received all pertaining literature and the agreements to go to war on Iraq, ontly 6 of the senators made time to read it. The ones that agreed to it as hipeter said it above, it was the minority who agreed to it. America has been mostly a democratic country.

[hipeter924]

Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

You just proved there is no such thing as democracy....

Oops.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

No. There is a significant difference between the notion of racial superiority and moral superiority. The difference being one side has committed more acts of goodness than the other.

As for America:

1. Discrimination of Blacks was widespread in the whole of Europe I advise you to read some of Shakespeare...Othello is quite good. You cannot hold America solely or even remotely responsible for a view widely established in Europe and brought to the USA. The reason why it stopped largely in Europe was because there were very few if any Blacks, mainly because they were undesirable and very few were let in.

2. Again Slavery was not an American concept in origin as it was brought again by Europeans. It was used by all the Empires at the time. When the European Empires and others did remove slavery. It made little difference. They were still just as bad off as their American Black counterparts.

3. Atomic Bombings. Don't even go there. Japanese don't like what happened there, and can get angry over it sometimes. But they don't hate the USA. You are not Japanese therefore you have no right to claim what even the Japanese don't claim themselves.

4. The Native Americans were destroyed by what you refer to as 'American's' who were actually French, British, Dutch and numerous other ethnic groups. But what about the Aztec's, the Incan's, the Persians, the Assyrian's (wiped by none other than Turkey). Also you seriously need to read up on the concept of 'white man's burden' which was a concept that ruled basically all European colonisation of the time.

5. Now you are going into current Issues. I like this. Democracy lesson for you:

Even in the democracies like Australia where 90% vote. You must factor in this. 1) 10% do not vote thus are not represented 2) of that 90% there is always an opposition and winning party 3) wining party needs only 51% of vote to get elected or 45.9% of the population (including those that did not vote) 4) 44.1% which constitute the opposition are not represented, nor are the 10% who did not vote 5) Thus 54.1% of the population are not represented, more than half the country.

In the USA there is far less representation than this as only half the country votes. So ignoring some of the system that is 1) 50% not voting 2) opposition party+winning party 3) 25.5% of pop min. needed to get elected ) 4) So that leaves even on the most extreme estimates 10% in opposition and another 50% that did not vote (60%). Again an overwhelming majority against any American government.

Thus do not suggest that the war on Iraq was agreed by the majority as it wasn't. It was ruled on by a minority. Thus as such trying to claim most Americans are criminal is false. Most American's didn't vote for it. Only that select 25.5 to 40%.

You just proved there is no such thing as democracy....

[hipeter924]

Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

Ethnic cleansing Kurds? There are 12M-15M Kurds in Turkey. If Turkey was to make ethnic cleansing, how could their population increase much more faster than that of Turks?



You are applying everything just to make Turks seem inferior which decreases your credibility.

>Discrimination of black for how many years?
>slavery
>atomic bombings
>not to mention what was done to Native Americans
>death of thousands of Iraqi civilians just bcoz of the non-existing WMD's
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We don't claim those lands, we have them.

No. There is a significant difference between the notion of racial superiority and moral superiority. The difference being one side has committed more acts of goodness than the other.

As for America:

1. Discrimination of Blacks was widespread in the whole of Europe I advise you to read some of Shakespeare...Othello is quite good. You cannot hold America solely or even remotely responsible for a view widely established in Europe and brought to the USA. The reason why it stopped largely in Europe was because there were very few if any Blacks, mainly because they were undesirable and very few were let in.

2. Again Slavery was not an American concept in origin as it was brought again by Europeans. It was used by all the Empires at the time. When the European Empires and others did remove slavery. It made little difference. They were still just as bad off as their American Black counterparts.

3. Atomic Bombings. Don't even go there. Japanese don't like what happened there, and can get angry over it sometimes. But they don't hate the USA. You are not Japanese therefore you have no right to claim what even the Japanese don't claim themselves.

4. The Native Americans were destroyed by what you refer to as 'American's' who were actually French, British, Dutch and numerous other ethnic groups. But what about the Aztec's, the Incan's, the Persians, the Assyrian's (wiped by none other than Turkey). Also you seriously need to read up on the concept of 'white man's burden' which was a concept that ruled basically all European colonisation of the time.

5. Now you are going into current Issues. I like this. Democracy lesson for you:

Even in the democracies like Australia where 90% vote. You must factor in this. 1) 10% do not vote thus are not represented 2) of that 90% there is always an opposition and winning party 3) wining party needs only 51% of vote to get elected or 45.9% of the population (including those that did not vote) 4) 44.1% which constitute the opposition are not represented, nor are the 10% who did not vote 5) Thus 54.1% of the population are not represented, more than half the country.

In the USA there is far less representation than this as only half the country votes. So ignoring some of the system that is 1) 50% not voting 2) opposition party+winning party 3) 25.5% of pop min. needed to get elected ) 4) So that leaves even on the most extreme estimates 10% in opposition and another 50% that did not vote (60%). Again an overwhelming majority against any American government.

Thus do not suggest that the war on Iraq was agreed by the majority as it wasn't. It was ruled on by a minority. Thus as such trying to claim most Americans are criminal is false. Most American's didn't vote for it. Only that select 25.5 to 40%.

[Anoush]

Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

That has got to to be the stupidest thing you have ever said. Please don't show your face in this thread with such stupidity. Now you show your true self, huh Turk?

Agreed fully!!!!!

[KanadaHye]

Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

That is why you ethnic cleansed azeris.

Do you even believe your own Palavra?

[Pazooki]

Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

That is why you ethnic cleansed azeris.

That has got to to be the stupidest thing you have ever said. Please don't show your face in this thread with such stupidity. Now you show your true self, huh Turk?

[Anoush]

Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

That is why you ethnic cleansed azeris.

Who killed who? Are you crazy or what???

Todate 35,000+ Armenians were massacred in broad daylight in Baku and three other cities barbarically, the "azeris" barbarics ate an Armenian man alive just like hungry wolves. They undressed a woman on the streets of Baku and burned her with cigarettes all over her body until she died. Should I continue the unspeakable unGodly barbarity to the fullest that was committed by the azerbaboon barbaric nomad wolves?

You think you are more superior?

My race/nationality has NO Genocidal past like your turkey or the azerbaboons. My race/nationality is civilized! By stating the facts one cannot claim to be superior but just stating facts. You go and make any assumptions you can make; I have nothing to do with that.

Anyway do You mean, ROA will accept 10 million Turkish people?

No. Go and read the above post again. I said when Armenia will be able to claim Wilsonian Armenia, then.

You still did not answer me. What will you do 10 million people If wilson armenia happens.

Are you asking me? I am not the law here; however if you ask me I would let the 10 million turks live in Wilsonian Armenia as citizens of Armenia. They will have to pay taxes same as Armenians and abide by the laws of the country same as Armenians. I said it above, go and read it; I said they'll live and practice their Muslim religion and Armenians their Christian religion, the same as Americans do.

If you want to occupy my land and ethnic cleans my people, You are my enemy. Nothing more nothing less. It is not racism idiot. It is seeing reality.

Armenians DO NOT do such things. Armenians are NOT like the Ittihadists nor like Attaturk nor like the "azeri"-tatars to do ethnic cleansing. Your country did that to us and the "azeri"-tatars did it to us. Again, Armenians are civilised people.