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Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
Originally posted by firat View PostWe lost our 37 can (this is a Turkish word meaning live or life but it has a much deeper meaning)
Originally posted by firat View PostHrant Dink's unfair death is still a great pain in the hearts of many Turks.
Just don't believe that only Armenians were in his funeral but not Turks. It is so untrue. There were many Turks there as well.
Hrant was not the first person and unfortunately will not be the last person this nation lost because of political beliefs. We lost our 37 can (this is a Turkish word meaning live or life but it has a much deeper meaning) in 1993.
We lost many intellectuals.
And if I may quote the last part of Rakel Dink's speech (http://www.bianet.org/english/politi...-the-loved-one)
"You left your loved ones, your children, your grand children. You left these people who salute you here; you left my arms. You didn't leave your country."Last edited by KanadaHye; 05-31-2009, 01:40 PM.
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
Originally posted by Anoush View PostVery good points. If I am a true Christian and I am, then I must not hate you as you are as well as myself created by the same God that you believe in as I do. Then I shouldn't hate you if you people can control some of your fascist's brothers' hate. I am sure most Armenians in Armenia that are the new generation of the Armenians do not hate turks as they wanted to see the borders open and most of them were hopeful for the betterment of both countries. My goodness look at Hrant Dink, how hopeful and well meaning he was towards your people and even your government. All he wanted for the turkish people and the government to bravely come forth and recognise the Genocide so that we would be able to come to grips with our almost a century ago differences. I call him a saintly man and I know from inside sources that he was just that. Even through the Ottoman times the bulk of the Armenian people wanted to live peacefully and be treated fairly and to live without persecution or criminality. They just wanted to work hard, be treated somewhat fairly and to live in peace. Now most of the new generation of the Armenians in Armenia just wished the Genocide to be recognised and did not exercise hatefulness towards your people. Some are afraid as it is very uncertain how turkey behaves (they say one thing but they do another). Armenians are more forthright, straightforward, trusting and civilised.
You are welcomed. I hear you and understand you that first off you think for Turkey as I do for Armenia. I shall be a hyppocrit if I don't admit or understand that. As you put it well; we are living in the 21st century and wouldn't it be better all around if instead of shedding blood and creating war, we come to terms with our differences and give or take the just parts that belong or not belong to us for the good of living in peace as neighbours? Anyhow now there's a great deal of turkish people that are mixed with either Greek or Armenian blood but the mentality is very turkish still, I know that. Well, stay and live as a Turkish man while I stay and live as an Armenian woman; but it would be better to learn to be fair and live fairly towards other human beings for the sake of peace, while we're all living under the same sun.
And you be in peace as well.
Just don't believe that only Armenians were in his funeral but not Turks. It is so untrue. There were many Turks there as well.
Hrant was not the first person and unfortunately will not be the last person this nation lost because of political beliefs. We lost our 37 can (this is a Turkish word meaning live or life but it has a much deeper meaning) in 1993.
We lost many intellectuals.
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
Originally posted by Gavur View PostYou would be correct if hiding bitter truths were good for anyone's country.If you think true democracy is bad for your country then you will deserve what you get.If not, you should support Armenia and Armenians, because we were one of the pioneers of democracy in Turkey and paid a heavy price for it.
I know that there are many university graduates who are very well educated and i also know that the average literacy rate is 4th or 5th grade in the country or something like that. I happen to think that democracy take its power from the citizens. No body gives it to you, you fight for it.
Education and welfare are the very things that will make this country more democratic.
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
Originally posted by firat View PostAmongst an enlarged Armenian and Kurdish country, you mean? ) I assume i have no other choice.
I would definetely prefer you. Armenian population is much more educated, civilized, used to be hard working (i don't know how soviets changed the structure of the population) etc. But our issues with you is much deeper than the ones we have with Kurds. Will you be able to love us again? I don't think so. I love you no matter what you think though. I have problems with the policies of ROA and the diaspora institutions, I don't hate people, it is ridiculous.
Thank you any way since you did not insult me at all by any means (I am not just adressing to you, Anoush, Everyone). Let me say this, I am a good guy, I do not want any one to be harmed, at least physically. Sentimentally, what I wish for my country is no good for Armenia, I am really aware of that. I just want you to know that I think what I think for the good of my country not to harm any Armenians and I'd know my limits if I was the one to take actions for my country. Being civilized is important in 21st century, isn't? (This is the part I might expect to hear such sentences from you: Turks and civilization, no way, they are like the opposite poles of a magnet. I know many think this way but I really don't care any more.)
Be in peace.
And you be in peace as well.Last edited by Anoush; 05-31-2009, 12:49 PM.
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
Originally posted by Palavra View Post
Population exchange. Anyway, Pontus rums did not copy armenian culture. I am sure you have zero idea about what are you talking. Pontus rums dance, music or food has zero relation with armenia or georgia. You are funny. Go and ask a pontus rum.
Also, region is not armenian at first.
Anyway my friend, as you know orginal anatolians are our ancestors. So people at Turkey(and now majority of them call themself as turk) have enough right to own all anatolia and It is not your job, which religion, langauge or culture people of Turkey choose.
We are local population. DNA searchs show this.
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
Originally posted by firat View PostAmongst an enlarged Armenian and Kurdish country, you mean? ) I assume i have no other choice.
I would definetely prefer you. Armenian population is much more educated, civilized, used to be hard working (i don't know how soviets changed the structure of the population) etc. But our issues with you is much deeper than the ones we have with Kurds. Will you be able to love us again? I don't think so. I love you no matter what you think though. I have problems with the policies of ROA and the diaspora institutions, I don't hate people, it is ridiculous.
Thank you any way since you did not insult me at all by any means (I am not just adressing to you, Anoush, Everyone). Let me say this, I am a good guy, I do not want any one to be harmed, at least physically. Sentimentally, what I wish for my country is no good for Armenia, I am really aware of that. I just want you to know that I think what I think for the good of my country not to harm any Armenians and I'd know my limits if I was the one to take actions for my country. Being civilized is important in 21th century, isn't? (This is the part I might expect to hear such sentences from you: Turks and civilization, no way, they are like the opposite poles of a magnet. I know many think this way but I really don't care any more.)
Be in peace.
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
Originally posted by Anoush View PostI think turkey should realize that it is far better for Wilsonian Armenia to be given the rightfuel heirs of Armenians who were annihilated that are quite civilised and very constructive than to the Kurds who happen to be very tribal and will fight till the end and take control of those same lands. Which countymen will be better after all? Turkey should ask herself intelligently and weigh.
I would definetely prefer you. Armenian population is much more educated, civilized, used to be hard working (i don't know how soviets changed the structure of the population) etc. But our issues with you is much deeper than the ones we have with Kurds. Will you be able to love us again? I don't think so. I love you no matter what you think though. I have problems with the policies of ROA and the diaspora institutions, I don't hate people, it is ridiculous.
Thank you any way since you did not insult me at all by any means (I am not just adressing to you, Anoush, Everyone). Let me say this, I am a good guy, I do not want any one to be harmed, at least physically. Sentimentally, what I wish for my country is no good for Armenia, I am really aware of that. I just want you to know that I think what I think for the good of my country not to harm any Armenians and I'd know my limits if I was the one to take actions for my country. Being civilized is important in 21th century, isn't? (This is the part I might expect to hear such sentences from you: Turks and civilization, no way, they are like the opposite poles of a magnet. I know many think this way but I really don't care any more.)
Be in peace.
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
Originally posted by bell-the-cat View PostNo more than a wet dream.
Look at the curves on your borders - magnificent. Shake those diplomatically-enhanced Armenian vilayets for me. Show me more baby. More! MORE!!
Spread your territorial claims wider. Wider! Yes - I can see Van, Bitlis, Erzurum, Erzincan! Come on, show me even more! Show me EVERYTHING I want to see!! You can do it, you know you want to. Wow! Now I can even see Trebizond. I love you Wilsonian Armenia. Never leave me!
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