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Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

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  • Anoush
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    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

    Originally posted by Gavur View Post
    This what a lot of semi-liberal Turks don't get.
    A dream is stronger then force!
    Dream big, dream the impossible
    Don't believe reality, 'cause its temporary.
    Ask us, will tell you about how "reality" can change.
    Ask us about the land of milk and honey
    Ask us about the secrets of life
    Ask us about your soul.
    I totally agree!
    Shad abris Gavur jan!!!! Vorkan lav xosetsar, himag achkes medar paregam!

    If you take the vital dream from the man, you will have a man without even the will to live. Without a dream a man will not live his fullest, will not produce his best and eventually will parish into the oblivian.

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  • firat
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    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

    Originally posted by seruven View Post
    I'd prefer the word "state" instead of government.
    This is not something that people in Europe or in US can understand. So, I decided to use them simultaneously long before when I speak to non-Turks. This situation is unique in Turkey.

    It is actually kinda funny when people keep blaming governments of Turkey. It does not depend on which government rules, the state structure is most of the time stable.

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  • seruven
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    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

    Originally posted by Gavur View Post
    The 2 biggest problem in Turkey the Fascist goverment, and ignorance.
    I'd prefer the word "state" instead of government. And I don't think Turkish people are champions of tolerance living under a fascist state. Fascism of the people and the state are feeding each other, IMO.

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  • seruven
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    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

    Originally posted by Palavra View Post
    Anyway my friend, as you know orginal anatolians are our ancestors. So people at Turkey(and now majority of them call themself as turk) have enough right to own all anatolia and It is not your job, which religion, langauge or culture people of Turkey choose.
    If only "Turks" (or at least a meaningful portion of them) were aware of that fact. Instead they prefer to believe that they came from Central Asia. It would be wiser to claim kinship with the Greek, Armenian, Kurd, Arab, etc. rather than the Kazak, Kyrgyz, Uygur, etc.

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  • Gavur
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    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

    The Turkish people are mostly mongrel (like Americans,)and enjoy being multi-cultures, and do not approve their governments abusive and oppressive policies, as well as the enforced national amnesia.

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  • Gavur
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    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

    The 2 biggest problem in Turkey the Fascist goverment, and ignorance.

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  • firat
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    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

    Originally posted by Palavra View Post
    And You would risk something for that dream. If you want to take risk, Np for me. But I will not bet much for your success.


    Population exchange. Anyway, Pontus rums did not copy armenian culture. I am sure you have zero idea about what are you talking. Pontus rums dance, music or food has zero relation with armenia or georgia. You are funny. Go and ask a pontus rum.

    Also, region is not armenian at first.

    Anyway my friend, as you know orginal anatolians are our ancestors. So people at Turkey(and now majority of them call themself as turk) have enough right to own all anatolia and It is not your job, which religion, langauge or culture people of Turkey choose.



    We are local population. DNA searchs show this.
    I guess we don't have a problem to say that we, Turks today, might be something else 1000 years ago. Now, we are Turks.

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  • Palavra
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    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

    Today we're all from Trabzon!

    Let us not believe reality!

    We must dream big, and dream the impossible!
    And You would risk something for that dream. If you want to take risk, Np for me. But I will not bet much for your success.
    And what gives the right to u the Turks to take the place of the local population?We had strong cultural ties with Pontus greeks even from ancient times they had Armenian Kings just like Georgia,we were the dominant culture in the region look at there dances and outfits music they are all copy of Armenian,we had strong armenian population for centuries in the region, don't forget that in Armenia in 1 perion there were more muslims that armenians that makes the place not armenian?
    Secondly the region were Armenian in first place greek colonies arrived and settle in the region but we all come along.
    So what gives u an Turk outsider the right to even look at the region?
    Population exchange. Anyway, Pontus rums did not copy armenian culture. I am sure you have zero idea about what are you talking. Pontus rums dance, music or food has zero relation with armenia or georgia. You are funny. Go and ask a pontus rum.

    Also, region is not armenian at first.

    Anyway my friend, as you know orginal anatolians are our ancestors. So people at Turkey(and now majority of them call themself as turk) have enough right to own all anatolia and It is not your job, which religion, langauge or culture people of Turkey choose.

    And what gives the right to u the Turks to take the place of the local population?
    We are local population. DNA searchs show this.
    Last edited by Palavra; 05-31-2009, 06:41 AM.

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  • firat
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    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

    Originally posted by UrMistake View Post
    And what gives the right to u the Turks to take the place of the local population?We had strong cultural ties with Pontus greeks even from ancient times they had Armenian Kings just like Georgia,we were the dominant culture in the region look at there dances and outfits music they are all copy of Armenian,we had strong armenian population for centuries in the region, don't forget that in Armenia in 1 perion there were more muslims that armenians that makes the place not armenian?
    Secondly the region were Armenian in first place greek colonies arrived and settle in the region but we all come along.
    So what gives u an Turk outsider the right to even look at the region?
    They are not the copy of Armenian culture. It is the combination of Armenian and Turkish culture. It is something that did not exist 1000 years ago. That is what Anatolia is. When you go to West, you are gonna see the same. Some culture combination of Greek and Turkish culture. In the south, you're gonna see the combination of Arabic, Turkish and Kurdish cultures.

    Nobody denies that but only stupids.

    I am gonna acept this "we were there in the first place" explanation when other new comers to the new world are gone back to Europe. It does not make sense. The difference is Native Americans do not have the power to voice their wishes, or they do not wish it or there is too little of them.

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  • UrMistake
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    Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing

    Originally posted by Palavra View Post
    Wilson armenia is nothing more than a dream. Trabzon never had armenians majority and people of trabzon has no relation with armenians or their culture. But It was in wilson armenia.

    By the way, I am from trabzon.
    And what gives the right to u the Turks to take the place of the local population?We had strong cultural ties with Pontus greeks even from ancient times they had Armenian Kings just like Georgia,we were the dominant culture in the region look at there dances and outfits music they are all copy of Armenian,we had strong armenian population for centuries in the region, don't forget that in Armenia in 1 perion there were more muslims that armenians that makes the place not armenian?
    Secondly the region were Armenian in first place greek colonies arrived and settle in the region but we all come along.
    So what gives u an Turk outsider the right to even look at the region?

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