Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

[Army]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Turkey's agenda is different from Armenia. For Armenia, it is a deadly important national issue. For Turkey, another step on the way of being a regional power, solving another problem within the neighborhood.

Like as Ankara's relationships with Syria. If you read, it was quoted here in this forum too. Syria's relationship with Ankara means a lot, a way to communicate with the West; however for Ankara, it is just a part of their big plan/strategy.

[Artsakh]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

He was forced to sign and we recognize it till we have the power to take back what is ours. We need to work together to strengthen our nation and people and weaken our enemy.

SHUT the hell up!!! I hope you and the rest of you clowns that were ripping your A=S=S wholes supporting Serje for president are eating your words, especially that self-called "Armenian" character.

i had been talking against serge years before he ran for president.

All the signs were there; and now you clowns are eating your own words.

-he was a chronic gambler
-in the position of defense minister, he repeatedly spoke of concessions to azerbaijan and the return of liberated territories
-he imprisoned patriots like vartan malkasyan and jirayr sefilyan when they dared to speak out against serje's treasonous calls for returning territories

even after the march carngage this traitor orchestrated in the streets of yerevan and the killing of civilians wasn't enough for you clowns.

and after all these and more, you clowns supported him, and i hope you are pround of yourselves.

ARMENIA, IN ESSENCE, BECAME A SLAVE NATION TODAY.

[ara87]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

Turkey's agenda is different from Armenia. For Armenia, it is a deadly important national issue. For Turkey, another step on the way of being a regional power, solving another problem within the neighborhood.

Like as Ankara's relationships with Syria. If you read, it was quoted here in this forum too. Syria's relationship with Ankara means a lot, a way to communicate with the West; however for Ankara, it is just a part of their big plan/strategy.

Idk i don't see why Turkey needs us to be a regional power, in mid east politics, we're important, as far as concerns over pipelines in georgia, and possible russian threats, they seem irrational, Russia will not soon repeat that scene in Georgia, and having the pipelines eventually moved to Armenia isn't smart either years of ethnic tension don't just disappear, even if we just did pull out or if they accepted nk as part of armenia.

As for the EU, a natural gas pipeline is going through Turkey to Europe, and the oil goes to Israel, that alone would have eventually got them in

[Artsakh]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

The only way out of this enslaving terms is for widescale popular uprising in armenia to overthrow this traitor; I pray to god he gets wacked!!

[ara87]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

The only way out of this enslaving terms is for widescale popular uprising in armenia to overthrow this traitor; I pray to god he gets wacked!!

I think for the sake of saving face, saying yo'd have him "exiled" would be better. Turks already call us a terrorist state

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

SHUT the hell up!!! I hope you and the rest of you clowns that were ripping your A=S=S wholes supporting Serje for president are eating your words, especially that self-called "Armenian" character.

i had been talking against serge years before he ran for president.

All the signs were there; and now you clowns are eating your own words.

-he was a chronic gambler
-in the position of defense minister, he repeatedly spoke of concessions to azerbaijan and the return of liberated territories
-he imprisoned patriots like vartan malkasyan and jirayr sefilyan when they dared to speak out against serje's treasonous calls for returning territories

even after the march carngage this traitor orchestrated in the streets of yerevan and the killing of civilians wasn't enough for you clowns.

and after all these and more, you clowns supported him, and i hope you are pround of yourselves.

ARMENIA, IN ESSENCE, BECAME A SLAVE NATION TODAY.

yes let's listen to idiots like you you are so right, let's destroy our nation even more. It's not you who will suffer it will be my family doing the suffering. If we listen to you we must go against the US, Eu and Russia; yes let's do that, let's destroy Armenia that will be fun. You don't even understand what we can gain from this you only see what your enemy let's you see. It's people like you who keep Armenia weak.

[ara87]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

He was forced to sign and we recognize it till we have the power to take back what is ours. We need to work together to strengthen our nation and people and weaken our enemy.

he wasn't forced to sign anything, no one held a gun to his head, if he were to refuse he'd probably been looked on as somewhat of a hero, and could have been our next president

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

he wasn't forced to sign anything, no one held a gun to his head, if he were to refuse he'd probably been looked on as somewhat of a hero, and could have been our next president

He was forced, there are better ways to force leaders of small countries to do things the great powers want than weapons. How long can we hold out without the help of any of the great powers. Whole of Armenia was on the line if we didn't play the game like they wanted we could have lost everything we had.

[gegev]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

He was forced, there are better ways to force leaders of small countries to do things the great powers want than weapons. How long can we hold out without the help of any of the great powers. Whole of Armenia was on the line if we didn't play the game like they wanted we could have lost everything we had.

He could resign leaving the superpowers waiting for the next presidential election. And they couldn't do anything.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

He could resign leaving the superpowers waiting for the next presidential election. And they couldn't do anything.

And how would that helped us just postponed the thing, the super powers have plans with the region and we need to make sure that we are part of those plans.