Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

[crusader1492]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

The Russian side has actually admitted that ethnic-cleansing is taking place right now, and it's against the Georgians. And I'm sure some of you have seen the images out there documenting a whole range of violations of laws of war taking place right now, from forced labour to mutilation of dead bodies to wearing enemy uniforms. Hell, you name it I'm sure if the Russians haven't ticked it off the checklist their S.O irregulars damn well have.

And here is one of the guys in charge of it all:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Shamanov

"Commander of the Russian forces" in South Ossetia. Nice. Very nice.

And then you have the Chechen Vostok battalion running around doing God knows what...

Hey, but you aren't Georgian and located in the affected areas are you? No.

Better keep sucking Russian xxxx then.

It's no Chechnya, but the damage is done.

Hi Turk,

This is just evidence that electing dumb leaders (Sakashvilli) will have very bad consequences. Armenia averted any actions, like the above, on itself by keeping LTP out in the cold.

The bottom line is that, no, Armenia is not affected by this violence because the country is pro-Russian (much to your chagrin ).

[D3ADSY]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

The Russian side has actually admitted that ethnic-cleansing is taking place right now, and it's against the Georgians. And I'm sure some of you have seen the images out there documenting a whole range of violations of laws of war taking place right now, from forced labour to mutilation of dead bodies to wearing enemy uniforms. Hell, you name it I'm sure if the Russians haven't ticked it off the checklist their S.O irregulars damn well have.

And here is one of the guys in charge of it all:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Shamanov

"Commander of the Russian forces" in South Ossetia. Nice. Very nice.

And then you have the Chechen Vostok battalion running around doing God knows what...

Hey, but you aren't Georgian and located in the affected areas are you? No.

Better keep sucking Russian xxxx then.

It's no Chechnya, but the damage is done.

[Federate]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

Georgia says Abkhazia separatists seize villages

TBILISI, Georgia - Georgia's Foreign Ministry said Saturday that Russian-backed separatists from the province of Abkhazia had taken over 13 villages in Georgia and a power plant.
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Russian army units and separatist militants shifted the border of breakaway Abkhazia toward the Inguri River, setting up temporary administration in 13 villages and putting the Inguri hydropower plant under separatist control, a Foreign Ministry statement said.

Abkhaz officials could not immediately be reached for comment on the late-night report.

Most of the villages and plant are in a buffer zone established by a 1994 U.N cease-fire resolution that ended a war over the province and left it with de facto independence.

It appeared that the separatists were bolstering their control over the area after Russian-backed Abkhazian fighters forced Georgians out of their last stronghold in the province earlier this week.

The renewed military action in Abkhazia came alongside fighting in another breakaway province in Georgia, South Ossetia, that has pit Russian and U.S.-backed Georgian forces against each other since Aug. 7 and prompted world diplomatic efforts to end the violence.

The buffer zone runs between Abkhazia's Gali region and Georgia's Zugdidi region, including a narrow, mountainous strip between Abkhazian territory and the Inguri River.

Abkhazian forces moved into the buffer zone last weekend in what the province's president said was a bid to "enforce order" and eliminate the Georgian militants who had mounted attacks on Abkhazian police and security forces from there.

Sergei Bagapsh acknowledged the Abkhazian move into the buffer zone would violate the peace agreement that ended the 1992-1993 war, but claimed that Georgia was the first to violate the truce.

From http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080817/...orgia_abkhazia

[RSNATION]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

Georgian rail bridge blast hits Azeri oil exports
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BAKU (Reuters) - Azerbaijan suspended oil exports through ports in western Georgia on Sunday after an explosion damaged a key rail bridge there.

Georgia accused Russian troops of blowing up a railway bridge west of the capital Tbilisi earlier in the day, saying its main east-west train link had been severed. Russia strongly denied any involvement.

"Transportation of oil and oil products in the western direction by railway has been suspended," Azerbaijan's state railway company said in a statement read out on television.

It gave the bridge explosion as the reason for the suspension. "The last shipment made by this railway contained 15 tanks," it said.

Another 72 oil tanks had been due to be sent to next-door Armenia before the railway link was cut off, it said.

The railway line runs from Tbilisi, through the Russian-occupied Georgian town of Gori, before splitting in three and running to the Black Sea ports of Poti and Batumi and southwest to just short of the Turkish border.

Azerbaijan is emerging as an important oil supplier to the West and its fast economic growth depends heavily on revenues from oil exports from the land-locked Caspian Sea.

Last week it suspended crude shipments via its key, BP-operated (BP.L: Quote, Profile, Research) Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan link to Turkey after a fire damaged it.

Earlier this week BP closed the pipeline taking crude from Azerbaijan's Caspian port of Baku to the Georgian port of Supsa on the Black Sea, citing fighting between Georgian and Russian troops.

A pipeline running from the Caspian Sea to Russia's Black Sea port of Novorossiisk currently remains Azerbaijan's only oil export outlet.

(Reporting by Afet Mehteva; Writing by Dmitry Solovyov; Editing by Gerrard Raven)

[Armanen]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

When I say "George Bush", that includes hin and his entire filthy circle.

He was never "in" the circle to begin with. And I meant the cabal wouldn't let him go to war with Russia, not directly at least.

[crusader1492]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

That's all true, but you do know that neither he nor cheney are really pulling the strings right?

When I say "George Bush", that includes hin and his entire filthy circle.

[Armanen]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

I think Bush starting another war is firmly within the scope of reality. The man has shown his unscrupulous nature for 8 years...what is to stop him from now? ...especially since all of his (and his buddies) interests are going to shit in the Caucuses.

He probably would rather gamble a war now (while he is in power). He's got nothing to lose (he's not up for re-election) and he's got everything to lose (the billions of dollars he's invested in Azeri oil).

The bottom line is that the man is a son-of-a-bitch

That's all true, but you do know that neither he nor cheney are really pulling the strings right?

[Federate]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

Bush may, or more correctly is, dumb enough to start a war with Iran, which could also lead to ww3, but do you really think he would start one with Russia especially over georgia?

However, as one of the articles pointed out, another Russian bombing raid may inadvertently kill american advisors which would really up the ante.

The chances of two superpowers going at it in a war are unlikely these days. There will never be a war between two nuclear powers because both sides know the risks are just too much. Countries have the amount of nukes needed to blow the Earth ten times over. The only possible nuclear war I see happening is India-Pakistan but that's a longshot too.

There will only be proxy wars such as Georgia (USA) vs Russia where one superpower funds a third state to fight a war with another superpower.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

I think Bush starting another war is firmly within the scope of reality. The man has shown his unscrupulous nature for 8 years...what is to stop him from now? ...especially since all of his (and his buddies) interests are going to shit in the Caucuses.

He probably would rather gamble a war now (while he is in power). He's got nothing to lose (he's not up for re-election) and he's got everything to lose (the billions of dollars he's invested in Azeri oil).

The bottom line is that the man is a son-of-a-bitch

Where will his next war be? The caucasus, Persia or South America that's the true question to ask.

[crusader1492]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

Bush may, or more correctly is, dumb enough to start a war with Iran, which could also lead to ww3, but do you really think he would start one with Russia especially over georgia?

However, as one of the articles pointed out, another Russian bombing raid may inadvertently kill american advisors which would really up the ante.

I think Bush starting another war is firmly within the scope of reality. The man has shown his unscrupulous nature for 8 years...what is to stop him from now? ...especially since all of his (and his buddies) interests are going to shit in the Caucuses.

He probably would rather gamble a war now (while he is in power). He's got nothing to lose (he's not up for re-election) and he's got everything to lose (the billions of dollars he's invested in Azeri oil).

The bottom line is that the man is a son-of-a-bitch