Hezbollah

[Anoush]

Re: Hezbollah

Դուք բաւականին լաւ գիտէք կոր Միւսիլմաններուն ողն ու ծուծը. ես հիմակ այս բոլորը ձեզմէ սորվեցայ, մէրսի:

Thank you people for the above enlightenment of the so-called muslim world.

[ArmSurvival]

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So I wonder if Ahmadinejad's reported Armenian ancestry is true as well...

Actually it was reported that he is J ewish. Supposedly Sabourjian is a common name among Iranian J ews. It makes a bit of sense when you think about it--- His face looks very J ewish to me (hard to describe what that means, you just have to be familiar with J ews). Also, all the tough talk towards Israel can be seen as trying to compensate for his own J ewish roots. Similar to how some closet homosexuals are publicly opposed to homosexuality.

Some Iranians will tell you that he is a secret agent for Mossad, sent to infiltrate the Iranian leadership in order to alienate Iran from the western world. Even some members of Hezb and the Lebanese government have been accused of being Mossad agents and are on trial. And crypto-J ews have infiltrated societies with many masks (Young Turks, Bolsheviks, etc). But who knows. It might be true, or it could all just be hearsay. Some experts on Iranian J ews have said he has no J ewish roots, and that his father was a religious Shia. The whole J ewish connection was reported by the Daily Telegraph, so you can never be sure if its just misinformation.

[Lucin]

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Discriminations, segregations, insults, ridicules……….these things were more prevalent at school level.

Examples are:
Being called a dirty Armenian or Armenian dog.
Pointing to yellow ants on the ground (compared to the numerous black ones), calling them Armenians and then stomping on them. Hahaha, that set me off like crazy maniac.
Getting ganged up on.
Getting pulled out of class because they were going to talk to the other students about something that we Armenians were not allowed to hear.
Teachers beating us up more than others and for no good reasons at all.
Being told to get out, this not your country. You know……….normal stuff.

As we grew older these things settled down and most cases we were all Iranians in their eyes. Armenians in military were honored properly.
But really with all this said, I would rather be in Iran than any other Muslim country, even with them freaking Mullahs in charge.

Horrible. Never experienced such a thing. But was this before the revolution or after it?

Actually it was reported that he is J ewish. Supposedly Sabourjian is a common name among Iranian J ews. It makes a bit of sense when you think about it--- His face looks very J ewish to me (hard to describe what that means, you just have to be familiar with J ews). Also, all the tough talk towards Israel can be seen as trying to compensate for his own J ewish roots. Similar to how some closet homosexuals are publicly opposed to homosexuality.

Some Iranians will tell you that he is a secret agent for Mossad, sent to infiltrate the Iranian leadership in order to alienate Iran from the western world. Even some members of Hezb and the Lebanese government have been accused of being Mossad agents and are on trial. And crypto-J ews have infiltrated societies with many masks (Young Turks, Bolsheviks, etc). But who knows. It might be true, or it could all just be hearsay. Some experts on Iranian J ews have said he has no J ewish roots, and that his father was a religious Shia. The whole J ewish connection was reported by the Daily Telegraph, so you can never be sure if its just misinformation.

It sounds a bit laughable to me, talking about Ahmadinejad's J'ewish roots. I think there are some important factors which discard such claims. The place where he was born, Semnan, is just Persian. J'ews are non-existent there, they have been concentrated in other regions more, like Hamedan or Tehran or... Secondly, Sabourjian may be 'common' among the Iranian J'ews but it is an Iranian name in the first place and so more common among the Iranians. And then more importantly, he has rised from a poor background, you think you can find a 'middle-class' J'ew (let alone poor) in Iran?

Oh and incidently I was watching a report lately on the Daily Telegraph where it indicated that its editor in chief is a Zionist. No surprise though but all this can make better sense I guess.

[Federate]

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Sabourjian from Wiki

Controversy

An article in the Daily Telegraph on 3 October 2009 stated that the name derives from weaver of the Sabour, and that sabour was the Persian name for the Tallit. The article also quoted an unnamed 'London based expert on Iranian Jewry' who stated that the jian ending denoted a family of practising Jews. [2]

A contrary article in The Guardian on 5 October 2009 contained quotes from Professor David Yeroushalmi, author of The Jews of Iran in the 19th century. Professor Yeroushalmi stated:

There is no such meaning for the word 'sabour' in any of the Persian Jewish dialects, nor does it mean Jewish prayer shawl in Persian.[1]

Professor Yeroushalmi also denied that the jian ending to a name denoted a family of practising Jews. He further stated:

This ending is in no way sufficient to judge whether someone has a Jewish background. Many Muslim surnames have the same ending.

[Muhaha]

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Bwhahaha. Alpha.

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Israel Cuts Off Arms Shipment To Hezbollah

Jerusalem – Israeli naval forces, led by Israel's elite Naval Commando Unit, stormed the Francop cargo ship before dawn on Wednesday and, after searching its containers, found large quantities of weapons and ammunition on board.

This cargo, earmarked for Hezbollah, originated in Iran. The seized weaponry was hidden inside containers, which supposedly were filled with goods.

A senior Israeli government official said, "Our work now is to show the world what Israel has to deal with. The photographs of arms and ammunition will prove that Israel is defending itself against fierce terrorism, and you don't fight terror with silk gloves. What country would allow terrorist groups to arm themselves in a way that endangers the lives of the citizens in its heartland?"

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu chose to frame the issue somewhat differently and said, "Anyone who still needed proof that Iran continues to send arms to terrorist organizations received it today, clearly and unequivocally. Iran is sending these arms to terrorist groups in order to strike at Israeli cities and kill civilians. The time has come for the international community to apply real pressure to Iran to stop this criminal activity and give support to Israel when it defends itself against terrorists and their patrons."

Meanwhile, a senior Israeli military source predicted Iran would attempt to find other ways to supply Hezbollah with weapons. He said Iran had settled on a maritime strategy after having confronted difficulty when smuggling over land. The source stressed the seizure of the arms ship was proof that Iran was continuing to invest great energy in smuggling munitions despite the restrictions placed on it. He said it was quite possible Iran had in the past made use of civilian commercial vessels as a cover to supply weapons to various destinations.

Continue - http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/...4301176815.txt

[Parskahay]

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iran is lending support to all of muslim countrys in some way hidden or any other way.
zionists are the most hated in world arent they?
and i can ensure you that iran supporting Hezbollah as best as it can even if i hate it...
the politics in iran at the moment are temporary and will end soon the Green wave of mousavi(dont know if you heard you can google it)
those dominant none-belivers took control over the iran and now will do anything to keep on they are not even muslims they are xxxxers who only think about their terrorism goals

[Armanen]

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iran is lending support to all of muslim countrys in some way hidden or any other way.
zionists are the most hated in world arent they?
and i can ensure you that iran supporting Hezbollah as best as it can even if i hate it...
the politics in iran at the moment are temporary and will end soon the Green wave of mousavi(dont know if you heard you can google it)
those dominant none-belivers took control over the iran and now will do anything to keep on they are not even muslims they are xxxxers who only think about their terrorism goals

So you do not like the current leadership of Iran?

[KanadaHye]

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iran is lending support to all of muslim countrys in some way hidden or any other way.
zionists are the most hated in world arent they?
and i can ensure you that iran supporting Hezbollah as best as it can even if i hate it...
the politics in iran at the moment are temporary and will end soon the Green wave of mousavi(dont know if you heard you can google it)
those dominant none-belivers took control over the iran and now will do anything to keep on they are not even muslims they are xxxxers who only think about their terrorism goals

Zionists and Neo-Conservatives are the most hated for those who have a clue about the atrocities that go on in the world in even such relatively unreported places such as Haiti.

So you do not like the current leadership of Iran?

I couldn't quite understand what he meant either... I'm not sure if he likes Iran's leadership and doesn't like Hezbollah or he doesn't care much for either.

[ArmSurvival]

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It sounds a bit laughable to me, talking about Ahmadinejad's J'ewish roots. I think there are some important factors which discard such claims. The place where he was born, Semnan, is just Persian. J'ews are non-existent there, they have been concentrated in other regions more, like Hamedan or Tehran or... Secondly, Sabourjian may be 'common' among the Iranian J'ews but it is an Iranian name in the first place and so more common among the Iranians. And then more importantly, he has rised from a poor background, you think you can find a 'middle-class' J'ew (let alone poor) in Iran?

Thanks for your input... what you say makes sense.

Oh and incidently I was watching a report lately on the Daily Telegraph where it indicated that its editor in chief is a Zionist. No surprise though but all this can make better sense I guess.

Well that seals the deal

[hipeter924]

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If I said I didn't like Iran I would have to admit I didn't like most of the middle east either because whether its Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran whatever there are plenty of Islamic Law driven nations.