Hezbollah

[SoyElTurco]

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the discussion about zionism=racism or nationalism=racism i believe belongs in the intellectual lounge. it doesnt engage the topic of the thread "Hezbollah"

[Haykakan]

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Ok Pal i am starting to believe that arguing with you is pointless.Your lack of mastery over the english languadge seems to be menifesting itself in the ways u interpret what is written.This conclusion u reached is a good example (I do not think, You realy know what are you talking. Turkish nationalist does not hate palastinians. They support arabs(I cannot talk about israel but where did your knowledge comes? About Turkish nationalists, It is totally false) are you trying to make a point acording to your fantasies?).Obviously i was refering to xxxs vs palastinians and turcks vs armenians and not to anything else.However in responce to your comment of (That is another point without proof. Also It is absurd to group Turks and xxxs as one.),it is very much fair to compare what is happening in isriel with what happened in turckey. I never said xxxs and turcks are one but they are doing the same thing and are in a similar state of racism and denial of the truth.And again i am not refering to all turcks and xxxs.Here is another falacy(Realy? so tell me one country who interest with her own crimes. You can find absolutely none. Everycountry is right at every war.)USA has given indians special rights and lands, Germany has given the xxxs lotsa money. These are just a couple examples.I realy dont have time to correct every stupid mistake you make. Perhaps it would be best if you go improve your english and brush up on nonturkish sanctioned history before you try to win any arguments here.

[Federate]

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I love these little games the Westerners like to play. They are establishing contact with the political wing but not the military wing... Well no sh!t? You don't negotiate with the military wing of a political group. And it's not like the two wings have any differences...
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UK restores links with Hezbollah


Britain says it is re-establishing contacts with the political wing of the Lebanese movement Hezbollah.

The move follows "positive political developments" in Lebanon, officials from the UK Foreign Office said.

It comes about 10 months after Hezbollah signed a unity accord in Lebanon and joined the government.

Only last year, the government put Hezbollah's military wing on a list of proscribed organisations over its alleged training of insurgents in Iraq.

"We are exploring certain contacts at an official level with Hezbollah's political wing, including MPs," said a spokesperson for the Foreign Office.

The spokesperson said the UK was doing "all it can" to support Lebanon's unity government, of which Hezbollah's political wing is a part.

"Our objective with Hezbollah remains to encourage them to move away from violence and play a constructive, democratic and peaceful role in Lebanese politics, in line with a range of UN Security Council Resolutions."

The spokesperson said Britain would continue to have no contact with Hezbollah's military wing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7927025.stm

[Eddo211]

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That is interesting news.

If I had to guess Federate I would say that this is all about weakening the Iranian Mullah’s ability to leverage Hezbollah against Israel.

[Eddo211]

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I will be the first to state Israeli atrocities and brutality and the overall nature of the State of Israel. I'll also go so far as to state that Palestinians have a right to self-determination and self-defense against naked Israeli aggression.

However, I draw a line with you folks in terms of honoring Hezbollah or any of these Muslim brotherhood type deals. Let's not forget that just as Judaism and the State of Israel is intolerant toward the other, so is Islam. And Islam is not a religion of peace but very much so a religion of hierarchy, subjugation and order. And lest we forget what Islam is about we need only look at our own Armenian history to see that we were a subject peoples under Islam and were discriminated upon and treated as a second class people.

Most if not all of these Islamic based groups or Islamic fundamentalist organizations seek an Islamic society or a caliphate or some type of deal where they will impose Islam on everyone else. Their mentality and backwardness of thought is against the idea of placing the highest emphasis on culture of a people but on the culture of the religion, because Islam is an all encompassing ideology of one-worldism that reduces people under one banner of sameness.

Let's fall into the trap where we can't see the forest for the trees.

I don’t think this can be put any better.

I hope this is truly understood by Armenians. Everything is not what it is on the surface, take it from someone who has rode through it………Ha

[Federate]

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Hezbollah 'found moles, foiled Israeli cell'


Hezbollah has successfully foiled an Israeli espionage operation, which saw the infiltration of spies into the movement, a daily reports.

The Lebanese newspaper al-Hayat reported that the members of a spy ring including a Lebanese officer identified as General Adib al-Alam successfully infiltrated Hezbollah, but the movement managed to find them.

Last week, the Lebanese media reported that the country's security service in cooperation with Hezbollah disbanded two espionage cells run by an operation out of Israel.

The spies are said to have used special equipment to guide Israeli warplanes during the 33-day war between Israel and Lebanon in 2006.

Adib was reportedly running one cell along with his wife and nephew and the second cell comprised of three other spies.

The Lebanese officer has confessed that he had been trained by the Israeli spy agency Mossad.

According to the al-Hayat report, Hezbollah has adopted new measures to prevent the infiltration of Israeli spies in the future.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=91826&sectionid=351020203

[Haykakan]

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I dislike any group which tries to claim religious superiority or is linked to religion in any way. Having said this, if it wasn't for these guys arming themselves, Lebanon would now be another Israeli province. Isreal is a racist state in addition to being religously intollorant. The xxxish state persecutes christians and muslims in its persuit of zionism(a purely racist concept). Westerners see Israel in a better light because western media is dominated by xxxs and one should not forget this fact when forming a opinion.

[Yedtarts]

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I dislike any group which tries to claim religious superiority or is linked to religion in any way. Having said this, if it wasn't for these guys arming themselves, Lebanon would now be another Israeli province. Isreal is a racist state in addition to being religously intollorant. The xxxish state persecutes christians and muslims in its persuit of zionism(a purely racist concept). Westerners see Israel in a better light because western media is dominated by xxxs and one should not forget this fact when forming a opinion.

Very well said!

[Federate]

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Capture of 'spies' hits Israel

BEIRUT, Lebanon, June 25 (UPI) -- The roundup of around 40 alleged Israeli agents in Lebanon in recent weeks has in all probability been a serious blow for Israeli intelligence at a time when its longtime adversary, Hezbollah, is bracing for another onslaught by the Jewish state.

Both sides are nervous -- Israel because valuable eyes and ears inside Lebanon have been lost, Hezbollah because the existence of these cells, some of them set up 25 years ago, was an immense security failure on its part and will mean it will have to do a lot of housecleaning and reorganizing.

All this means is that two of the Middle East's most ferocious adversaries, whose intelligence war over the years has been one of the most heated in the region, have both been badly damaged and want to hit back.

The turmoil in Iran and the emergence of a hard-line, right-wing government in Israel under hawkish Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu fuel this unease and sense of vulnerability on both sides. And in the volatile Middle East, those are usually portents of trouble.

With one cell after another being rolled up, the Israelis will no doubt have told whatever other intelligence assets they may have in Lebanon to lie low. And it seems clear, given the rank of some of the Lebanese arrested in the crackdown, that the Israelis had penetrated Lebanese society and its military widely and deeply.

The alleged agents included a former general in Lebanon's premier security service, two army colonels and a former mayor. Lebanese authorities say most of those arrested, including those just listed, have all confessed that they had been spying in Lebanon for years.

Some said they were recruited by Israel's various intelligence services -- Mossad, which operates outside Israel; the Shin Bet internal security service, which operated in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories; and Aman, military intelligence -- as far back as 1982 when Israel invaded Lebanon.

In Lebanon, given Hezbollah's nationwide military structure and the danger it poses for the xxxish state, the Israelis will have to rebuild the networks smashed by Lebanese intelligence and Hezbollah's security branch to regain the intelligence flow that is vital to military operations.

This means that to an extent that can only be guessed at, the Israelis are more vulnerable regarding Hezbollah than they have been for many years.

When Hezbollah abducted Israeli soldiers on the border on July 12, 2006, Israel responded with wave after wave of airstrikes in what became a 34-day war. The Israelis were able to destroy bunkers containing most of Hezbollah's long-range rockets capable of striking deep into Israel, almost to Tel Aviv, in under an hour.

Their intelligence was that good, and some of that must have come from agents they had on the ground. Those assets may no longer be available, and the Israeli air force may not be able to strike with such devastating accuracy next time around.

Hezbollah, too, is jumpy, and with some reason. From what information is available about the alleged spies' activities, they were focused primarily on tracking Hezbollah leaders and key operatives, identifying command centers and safe houses.

Several senior Hezbollah officials who were assassinated were probably targeted by intelligence provided by the Israeli agents. At least one of these agents had secured a commercial contract with Hezbollah's administrative branch to maintain its vehicles and had planted tracking devices in them that went undetected for years.

It does not take a great stretch of the imagination to surmise how many secret facilities and key Hezbollah operatives were uncovered in what must stand as one of the most successful espionage operations mounted in many years.

It seems that the assassination of several senior Hezbollah figures likely resulted from the activities of the Israeli spy rings. Among those killed was the Shiite movement's fabled and shadowy operational chief, Imad Mughniyeh, the most wanted fugitive in the world until Osama bin Laden struck on Sept. 11, 2001.

Mughniyeh, indicted in the United States for the June 1985 hijack of a TWA jetliner in which a U.S. Navy diver was murdered, was assassinated in one of the most secure districts of Damascus, the Syrian capital, after a meeting with Syrian intelligence chiefs.

A bomb placed in the headrest of his SUV was detonated by remote control when he got into the vehicle. It was one of the most spectacular assassinations in the Middle East for years. It hit Hezbollah hard, and it has carried out no operation of any significance against Israel since then.

http://www.upi.com/Emerging_Threats/2009/06/25/Capture-of-spies-hits-Israel/UPI-66891245950455/

[Haykakan]

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Zionists being executed, i want front row seats. Pass the popcorn!