Muslims occupy Europe

[gegev]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

This isn't about defending Islam .....

Right it is easier to criticize Christianity: they don't fight back. The religion doesn't allow it. Go on in that direction; it's safe.

Bye ...

[Eddo211]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Lest you are insinuating to the genocide and the Armenians' treatment, let's also not forget that the Young Turk movement was a pan-Turkic nationalist movement and the destruction of Armenians was not a result of Islamist thinking. In fact, nothing in Islam approves of genocide and contrary to the twisted and ideological interpretation of Islam you and gegev have engaged in, many Muslims in Ottoman Turkey and Arabs helped Armenians.

It continuously amazes me how people like you twist historic events to fit your ideological mold.

And furthermore, lest you are still confused, make no mistake about the fact that I am fully aware of the nature of Islam being a closed system and the rigidity which its creed contains. However, unlike your blindness, I also recognize the same point in Christianity, which has a bigger claim to forced conversions than Islam going back to Constantine, and even as far into the present as the Spaniard conquistadors.

No, I was not talking about the AG but since you brought it up Islam was used as an effective tool by Nationalists against us.....it doesn't take much critical thinking to see who is the enemy (not Islam itself but Muslims radicals who wheeled it against Armenians) and we Armenians do not assocciate with that type of Christianity that you describe.

I am not twisting any historical events that I know of and I don't have an idiological mold because it is always subject to updates and it is not written in stone. Maybe if you hear what some of these Muslims say about us Armenians you would change your perspective on it.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Right it is easier to criticize Christianity: they don't fight back. The religion doesn't allow it. Go on in that direction; it's safe.

Bye ...

The pen is mightier than the sword.

[Christina]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

There is a caption on the bottom of one the Korans of the American English version that
states the clear aim of Islam is to build mosques in strategic locations in the world
and to make the world under Islam!

God forbid!

That they also dictate to the local Greek officials that the women in their
region must all wear the burqua! This includes the Greek women that have
lived in that region with their families for centuries!

The politicans are into "politically correct" this and that so the citizens of Greece are
fed up with this!

Now in France the muslim women are doing what their men and leaders say and
they even drive with the burqua!

Now the Iman of the Muslims is demanding the French govt give millions so he can
build the largest mosque in all of France! (what? he has already 4 or 5!)

The motto: "Actions speak louder than words!" applies here.

If no one believes me--go look through the Koran!

Now the French people and govt has had enough! I copied and posted the
section so I hope it comes on for you to read, if not let me know.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100914/ap_on_re_eu/eu_france_forbidding_the_veil

[Anonymouse]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

There's more paranoia of Muslims here among a few posters than there is in an entire UFO convention.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Right it is easier to criticize Christianity: they don't fight back. The religion doesn't allow it. Go on in that direction; it's safe.

Bye ...

Then how do you explain the offensive expansion of Christianity by Constantine or the Spaniards? In their case, they sought to "civilize" the savages and on a scale far more destructive than Islam for they nearly wiped out the natives of the Americas. You have conveniently evaded this because it does not conform to the rigid narrative in your mind. Now you may return to your ideological prism where you feel safe and comfortable, away from Muslims and other "others."

[KanadaHye]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Now in France the muslim women are doing what their men and leaders say and
they even drive with the burqua!

Now the Iman of the Muslims is demanding the French govt give millions so he can
build the largest mosque in all of France! (what? he has already 4 or 5!)

The motto: "Actions speak louder than words!" applies here.

If no one believes me--go look through the Koran!

Now the French people and govt has had enough! I copied and posted the
section so I hope it comes on for you to read, if not let me know.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100914/...dding_the_veil

France's problem with the Bur-qua is that criminals can use the nifty apparel as a cover. In Islamic countries this isn't a problem because they are traditionally raised to fear God and are deathly afraid to commit any crime. France is a beacon of liberalism, and liberalism isn't a problem for the wealthy since they wish to remain wealthy and powerful while pulling strings behind the scenes.

[Christina]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

I can quote chapter and verse from the Koran as I looked through it. The Koran
itself states the true believer is to kill, steal, do all these horrible things to anyone
that does not accept Islam. The Turkish deny the actions they did and the genocide.
Their holy book tells them to do these things. So they are contradicting their own
book.
I typed up alot of quotations from the Koran and sections and did not post them
here but I can if Federate allows it. I have no reason to lie. I have nothing to gain from
it.

[retro]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Then how do you explain the offensive expansion of Christianity by Constantine or the Spaniards? In their case, they sought to "civilize" the savages and on a scale far more destructive than Islam for they nearly wiped out the natives of the Americas. You have conveniently evaded this because it does not conform to the rigid narrative in your mind. Now you may return to your ideological prism where you feel safe and comfortable, away from Muslims and other "others."

The Spainish empire never cloaked it's imperialism behind a veil of Christianity. The Conquistadors where solders, not Catholic priests and they where in Latin America in search of lands and gold plunder.

[Haykakan]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

The Spainish empire never cloaked it's imperialism behind a veil of Christianity. The Conquistadors where solders, not Catholic priests and they where in Latin America in search of lands and gold plunder.

The spaniards did justify many of their horrific acts by stating it was done against godless people(even when they did have their own gods). Gegev when you say things like "The Shahids and the Mullahs who preached them the Islamic “Dar al-harb” doctrine are responsible for the 911 killings" you really do show your crudness. You display the level of sophistication commonly found among american flagwaving rednecks. If by now if anyone doesnt understand why 911 happened and who is responcible for it, then perhaps he/she is doomed to exist in his/her cave of crudness for eternity i guess. Eddo i doubt anyone here is "defending islam" nor have "we Armenians have a very short memory, or maybe some of us are too scared to face the ugly reality". The point being made is that all religions are bs and that most are and have been used and will be used to divide people to justify them killing eachother while the few who are able to manipulate the situation walk off into the sunset with the spoils. Arguing about which religion is the bloodiest is completely pointless because they are constantly used against one another-the day before it was christianity, yesterday it was islam, today it is judaism... Even previously peacfull religions have fallen into this trap of endless death and destruction. Organized religion always ends up hurting both its own members and other people of other religions or anyone else who is not of that religion (unless we are talking about suicidal cults which thankfully kill themselves vs killing others). Religion is used to discriminate not only on religious differences but it gets translated into all kinds of other forms to justify racism, economic disparity, rape, murder, standing up for hours on a sunday while wearing uncomfortable clothing... Religion really is the biggest BS story ever told.