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The one thing that really pisses me of are the trigger happy armos. What the hell are these people thinking? Its cool to take someone’s life for a stupid reason and go do life for the rest of your life.

[whitelotus]

i was watching the travel channel once, it was showing armenian gangs of los angeles, what a desgrace.

it shows a bunch of stupid armenian kids talking to one another, while a dead armenian kid layed on the ground , covered with a sheet , while his brother was held by cops on the side, crying hysterically...trying to get to his brother who was dead.

people shoot one another for the dumbest xxxx, "you look at me funny" or " you called my mother fat "

that isnt a f*cking reason to shoot one another dead you idiots!

people with big egos who are trigger happy drive me nuts

[xBaron Dants]

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Originally posted by patlajan Don't fall for that Micheal Moore crap. What was funny to me that he compared the number of shootings in Canada with the number of shooting in the U.S. which is silly since Canada only has 24 million people in it. That's less people than my tri-state area. And the more even distribution of income is probably a factor. I want to see the % of fatalities from guns compare to the total population.

Yes, I noticed the difference in population. HOWEVER, if you were to calculate the rate, as I estimated while watching the movie, it is still 5-6 times higher in the USA than in Canada.

[patlajan]

Originally posted by Anonymouse There are laws now against such things, yet they happened didn't they? So what was the point of a law, the kids won't understand that. Besides, what you mentioned is somethign that is so rare that I wouldnt worry about it. How many people have died by kids throwing grenades via the window? I am far more afraid of the State having guns than kids. Your logic makes no sense.

It will happen frequently in the society you propose. Since government can't regulate anyone that grenade should be readily available for sale at a store. Who is the governmet to say what someone can buy and can't buy. So my scenario seems likely. What is there to stop that kid from obtaining the grenade? You've got a bazooka why can't he have a grenade? Who are you to tell him what he can and can't have?

[patlajan]

Originally posted by whitelotus i was watching the travel channel once, it was showing armenian gangs of los angeles, what a desgrace.

it shows a bunch of stupid armenian kids talking to one another, while a dead armenian kid layed on the ground , covered with a sheet , while his brother was held by cops on the side, crying hysterically...trying to get to his brother who was dead.

people shoot one another for the dumbest xxxx, "you look at me funny" or " you called my mother fat "

that isnt a f*cking reason to shoot one another dead you idiots!

people with big egos who are trigger happy drive me nuts

Yeah I saw that.

[patlajan]

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Originally posted by Baron Dants Yes, I noticed the difference in population. HOWEVER, if you were to calculate the rate, as I estimated while watching the movie, it is still 5-6 times higher in the USA than in Canada.

I think population density should also be accounted for. When people are in each other's face more tempers are more likely to flare. Also Canada's ethnic makeup is more stable, so there is less friction that way as well.

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by patlajan It will happen frequently in the society you propose. Since government can't regulate anyone that grenade should be readily available for sale at a store. Who is the governmet to say what someone can buy and can't buy. So my scenario seems likely. What is there to stop that kid from obtaining the grenade? You've got a bazooka why can't he have a grenade? Who are you to tell him what he can and can't have?

By the way, in "my society" which isn't really "mine' but the idea of anarcho capitalism is that all things will be privatized, even law and security production, to foster competition, as opposed to being a monopoly of the State. In the present state of affairs it is only the State that is a monopoly of force, imposing law and "security" in a given territory.

Of course youre example once again assumes that all kids seek to acquire guns. Eventually if I have a bazooka you have a bazooka we wont shoot each other, just like the Soviet Union and the U.S. wouldn't explode each other.When one party is in possession of something it is a monopoly and that party alone has the power, but when you don't have a monopoly and other parties have your capabilities it will be a natural form of deterrence.

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by whitelotus i was watching the travel channel once, it was showing armenian gangs of los angeles, what a desgrace.

it shows a bunch of stupid armenian kids talking to one another, while a dead armenian kid layed on the ground , covered with a sheet , while his brother was held by cops on the side, crying hysterically...trying to get to his brother who was dead.

people shoot one another for the dumbest xxxx, "you look at me funny" or " you called my mother fat "

that isnt a f*cking reason to shoot one another dead you idiots!

people with big egos who are trigger happy drive me nuts

I think its people that come from xxxxed up families not egos that end up the way they are.

I see this all the time. Many Armenian immigrants come here, their parents open up a business, make money, forget about their kids, and just buy a car, give it to them, their kids grow up xxxxed up. I went to an innner city high school, full of mexicans, asians and armenians. I saw this xxxx all the time.

[whitelotus]

like i stated before, in texas everyone and there grandma has a gun on them, no one shoots one another, lowest state of crime.

[xBaron Dants]

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Originally posted by patlajan I think population density should also be accounted for. When people are in each other's face more tempers are more likely to flare. Also Canada's ethnic makeup is more stable, so there is less friction that way as well.

According to Moore's statistics (which I will trust because he would be an idiot to give false stats in his doc), the ethnic makeup isn't much different in Canada.

What I found very interesting were stats that our sociology professor presented to us last semester. Obviously, I don't remember the exact figures, but it went something like this.

In USA, black americans form 12% of the population, and 35 (or more, I don't remember) of the prison population.

In Canada, they form around 6% of the population, and 4% of the prison population.

Also, on the population density aspect, I will have to disagree. Most Canadians live in the Quebec City/Windsor axe, which is just as dense as the States. In fact, the crime rate is much higher in the aboroginal population, who are a small number on a very large territory (all that reaaally cold part nobody goes to).