Religion and Atheism

[Armanen]

Re: Religion and Atheism

Ofcourse he did, show me one general that went to war that wasn't in his interest.

Robert E. Lee

[Armanen]

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I forgot to comment on this part of what you said...

Can you show me an example of what you'd consider a militant muslim or christian please?

Pat robertson for the 'Christian' side, and mohammed omar aka mullah omar on the muslim side.

[Sip]

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People like you and me wrote the Bible. God's words, not his handwriting.

There are 2 possibilities and there is no way you can get around this:

1. Since we wrote the Bible and we can make mistakes, then the Bible is flawed.
2. We wrote it down perfectly with 0 mistakes in which case it is the same as God having written the Bible.
(note that most Christians really really really love to insist on #2 )

[KanadaHye]

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Maybe you can explain to Kanadahye what it means when I say "God wrote the Bible"

People like you and me wrote the Bible. God's words, not his handwriting.

[KanadaHye]

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Your personal attacks keep amusing me.

What did Louis do that wasn't in his interest as king? Was it his Crusade that was a disaster and cost the life of so many people and attacked an ally of Jerusalem? Or the fact that he divorced his wife because of his inferiority complexes and lost the half of his kingdom? The other example a crazy woman that was burned as a witch and heard voices in her head. Perfect examples, really. (if you haven't noticed I'm being sarcastic)

Ah yes, the Hollywood revisionist histories are the best

[KanadaHye]

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Who is to say what is better, during the soviet era Armenians had the highest level of level ever. However does it mean that Armenians should abandon their independence? Hell no!

Armenians during Ottoman rule were even better off than those under the Soviet yoke. Peace leads to prosperity and as long as we are surrounded by war (and those that provoke and promote war for their own interests) people will just be wasting their time and energy for other powers. Just look at America, the country in the last decade has accomplished nothing. An entirely lost decade.

Independence is surely the goal as long as other powers recognize and respect your sovereign rights, the right of people to land, property, natural resources and business without control under monopoly.

[Sip]

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i don't think your own word requires much exegesis though it certainly validates "and the world knew him not"

On an unrelated note, I know Siggie gives you a hard time for talking all fancy but I have to give you +1 on the use of exegesis. First time I have ever seen that word

[KarotheGreat]

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Your personal attacks keep amusing me.

you asked for one general, will a king do?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_IX_of_France

or maybe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc

?

What did Louis do that wasn't in his interest as king? Was it his Crusade that was a disaster and cost the life of so many people and attacked an ally of Jerusalem? Or the fact that he divorced his wife because of his inferiority complexes and lost the half of his kingdom? The other example a crazy woman that was burned as a witch and heard voices in her head. Perfect examples, really. (if you haven't noticed I'm being sarcastic)

[gkv]

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Maybe you can explain to Kanadahye what it means when I say "God wrote the Bible"

i don't think your own word requires much exegesis though it certainly validates "and the world knew him not"

[gkv]

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you asked for one general, will a king do?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_IX_of_France

or maybe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc

?