Religion and Atheism

[Sip]

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How long after birth?

[KanadaHye]

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Where is the island located?

In the Society Islands of French Polynesia, 90 miles from Papeete and 15 miles from world renown Bora Bora.

[Siggie]

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Interesting. Would you survive if you were left on an island on your own after birth? What knowledge would you have?

Where is the island located?

[KanadaHye]

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Because I should have interpreted "get through your life on your own" as literally on my own without assistance from any person, natural or supernatural? In a discussion about atheism. Or should I have interpreted faith differently in the same discussion? Who would read "having faith in someone else's abilities will be your only solution" IN THIS THREAD and think you must mean doctors and firefighters?

Interesting. Would you survive if you were left on an island on your own after birth? What knowledge would you have?

[Siggie]

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Probably because you can't interpret written words and automatically assume the meaning due to bias.

Because I should have interpreted "get through your life on your own" as literally on my own without assistance from any person, natural or supernatural? In a discussion about atheism. Or should I have interpreted faith differently in the same discussion? Who would read "having faith in someone else's abilities will be your only solution" IN THIS THREAD and think you must mean doctors and firefighters?
But no, you weren't understood because I'm biased, not because you were ambiguous and invited misunderstanding.

[KanadaHye]

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You can't get through life on your own, eventually you'll run into a problem that you can't "fix" or won't just go away and having faith in someone else's abilities will be your only solution to the problem.

But sitting at home with a bad illness having faith that God will cure you or praying to God that the fire next door will be put out by divine intervention is the dangerous kind of blind, base-less faith that drives atheists nuts about the religious folk.

This is what I thought he meant and that's why I wanted him to clarify, but he refused.

Probably because you can't interpret written words and automatically assume the meaning due to bias.

[Siggie]

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But sitting at home with a bad illness having faith that God will cure you or praying to God that the fire next door will be put out by divine intervention is the dangerous kind of blind, base-less faith that drives atheists nuts about the religious folk.

This is what I thought he meant and that's why I wanted him to clarify, but he refused.

[KanadaHye]

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This is fine and I agree. It is good to have faith in other things than just your own abilities. I think the problem with religion is having blind faith in make believe things. That is the problem. But having faith that a doctor can heal your wounds, or a fireman who can put out the blaze on the hill by your house, or that rain in the future will nurture your crops is definitely a good thing in life. These have basis in reality. There is a reason to have such faith.

But sitting at home with a bad illness having faith that God will cure you or praying to God that the fire next door will be put out by divine intervention is the dangerous kind of blind, base-less faith that drives atheists nuts about the religious folk.

Yeah, that's pretty much wishful thinking.

[Sip]

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You can't get through life on your own, eventually you'll run into a problem that you can't "fix" or won't just go away and having faith in someone else's abilities will be your only solution to the problem.

This is fine and I agree. It is good to have faith in other things than just your own abilities. I think the problem with religion is having blind faith in make believe things. That is the problem. But having faith that a doctor can heal your wounds, or a fireman who can put out the blaze on the hill by your house, or that rain in the future will nurture your crops is definitely a good thing in life. These have basis in reality. There is a reason to have such faith.

But sitting at home with a bad illness having faith that God will cure you or praying to God that the fire next door will be put out by divine intervention is the dangerous kind of blind, base-less faith that drives atheists nuts about the religious folk.

[Siggie]

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Solution - The answer to or disposition of a problem.