Religion and Atheism

[KanadaHye]

Re: Religion and Atheism

You are comparing now apples and oranges, you should look it at this way a maffia boss protects the ones that work on the street or else they will lose money and power. The nobility wasn't the power of the peasantry it was their ruler like in the rest of the world and their the nobility did things because it was in their best interest not because of kindness and love.

I don't disagree but are we to say that it's better to be ruled by strangers than your own people? Perhaps in the case of Armenians, it is.

[KarotheGreat]

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That could be said about anything.... That's like saying "Your parents kept you around not because they loved you but they needed someone to cut the lawn or do the dishes."

You are comparing now apples and oranges, you should look it at this way a maffia boss protects the ones that work on the street or else they will lose money and power. The nobility wasn't the power of the peasantry it was their ruler like in the rest of the world and their the nobility did things because it was in their best interest not because of kindness and love.

[KanadaHye]

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Actually it was Timur Lame that destroyed the Armenian nobility and what was left after that was a mere shadow of the past. If you look at Mkhitar Sparapet and David Bek you can see how nobility was ready to sell out the ordinary people to save their own skin. If they didn't protect there was no one left to tend to their lands, no one left to pay taxes etc. They didn't do it because they loved the people so much but because they needed the people.

That could be said about anything.... That's like saying "Your parents kept you around not because they loved you but they needed someone to cut the lawn or do the dishes."

[KanadaHye]

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Reminded me of this cartoon:

And WTF is this xxxx? You're worse than the parrots in the media.

[KanadaHye]

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Here we go again with the anti-Armenian accusations. Yes, I was selected and educated with that very narrow goal in mind.

I'm sick and tired of people thinking that being a patriot means that you can never criticize or say anything negative (truth being irrelevant) about Armenia or any Armenians. If we pretend that there's nothing that can be improved upon then we will be a stagnant nation awaiting our demise.
If we try to systemically only spread information that paints Armenia and Armenians in a positive light, then what's the difference between that and propoganda?

I speak honestly, first and foremost. It's called integrity.

Where is the ROFLMAO emoticon? LOL

[Siggie]

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Perhaps I'm not dumb to how much better off Armenians were before they were fu@ked by the British nobles who now "educate" so called "Armenians" like yourself in the West to speak against Armenian culture and protect Western interests.

Here we go again with the anti-Armenian accusations. Yes, I was selected and educated with that very narrow goal in mind.

I'm sick and tired of people thinking that being a patriot means that you can never criticize or say anything negative (truth being irrelevant) about Armenia or any Armenians. If we pretend that there's nothing that can be improved upon then we will be a stagnant nation awaiting our demise.
If we try to systemically only spread information that paints Armenia and Armenians in a positive light, then what's the difference between that and propoganda?

I speak honestly, first and foremost. It's called integrity.

[KanadaHye]

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You're funny. If this was a discussion about a modern leader, you'd be the one insisting he's corrupt, that there are other things at play behind the scenes, and never trust the story fed to the masses. Yet now, you resist that there might be more to the popular story here.

Perhaps I'm not dumb to how much better off Armenians were before they were fu@ked by the British nobles who now "educate" so called "Armenians" like yourself in the West to speak against Armenian culture and protect Western interests.

[Siggie]

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I forgot to comment on this part of what you said...

Can you show me an example of what you'd consider a militant muslim or christian please?

Reminded me of this cartoon:

[Siggie]

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Just do not become one of those militant atheists otherwise you will only radicalize the opposition.

I forgot to comment on this part of what you said...

Can you show me an example of what you'd consider a militant muslim or christian please?

[Armanen]

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Actually his blog was one of the aspects that showed me what our religion was and helped me on too the way finding what fitted me.

Well atheism was not what he intended but if that is what fits you then all I can say is enjoy.