Religion and Atheism

[KanadaHye]

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Aha ... so we're finally getting somewhere. Your true worry is that the Christian religion defines Armenians as a people. I am here to put your mind at ease and to again and again tell you there were Armenians LOOOOOONG before this whole Christianity fad showed up and I am very hopeful there will be Armenians for long long looong after Christianity goes away like so many other religions before it.

I actually find it very insulting to see claim that being Armenian is only (or predominantly) about Faith and the Church. We have so much more to offer to the world than just being prayer monkeys to God.

The real question is, do you think people will be smart enough to regain their identity outside the Church or are we doomed to have to depend on this farcical entity for eternity? I guess I have more faith in people than you

You seem to be oblivious to the history of Christianity. The fact is religion isn't going anywhere and the ONLY religion being attacked is Christianity (ask yourself why).

[yerazhishda]

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Aha ... so we're finally getting somewhere. Your true worry is that the Christian religion defines Armenians as a people. I am here to put your mind at ease and to again and again tell you there were Armenians LOOOOOONG before this whole Christianity fad showed up and I am very hopeful there will be Armenians for long long looong after Christianity goes away like so many other religions before it.

Jesus Christ has risen from the dead, and no matter how much you and the likes of you rail against the Church, the gates of hell shall not prevail against it!

I will pray for the enlightenment of your soul and the opening of your heart.

[Armanen]

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"Remember this. When people choose to withdraw far from a fire, the fire continues to give warmth, but they grow cold. When people choose to withdraw far from light, the light continues to be bright in itself but they are in darkness. This is also the case when people withdraw from God."

That is the money quote!

[Sip]

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Yes, similarly when people move away from a pile of poop, the pile continues to smell like poop while you can start to enjoy some fresh air

As far as Christianity, I feel the same about Islam. At least Islam is much less focused on the hocus pocus ghost, spirit, miracle stuff. Their religion is faaar more focused on the practical day to day, mundane stuff. As I have said before, I admire the teachings of Jesus and how he lived a lot. That part of "turn the other cheek" mentality of Christianity I think is far more superior to the "eye-for-an-eye" attitudes of Islam. But considering that most of the religious posts here have been about Christianity, it has ended up being the main focus of what "religion" means (in this thread).

[Sip]

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So what is it about Christianity that is bothering you so much ...

If I had to pin-point certain aspects, it's probably the part where Christians think they are somehow better than everyone else.

[Armanen]

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If I had to pin-point certain aspects, it's probably the part where Christians think they are somehow better than everyone else.

Atheist types like you reek of that attitude more so than Christians. Idiot fundamentalist/zionist/evangelical 'Christians' do not count.

[Sip]

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Doesn't seem like you have been following this thread much .. I am not an atheist.

[KanadaHye]

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If I had to pin-point certain aspects, it's probably the part where Christians think they are somehow better than everyone else.

How would you know what they think? I doubt they think they are better than everyone else since they would be snobbish rather than sacrificing their selfish needs for the betterment of others.

[KanadaHye]

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Yes, similarly when people move away from a pile of poop, the pile continues to smell like poop while you can start to enjoy some fresh air

As far as Christianity, I feel the same about Islam. At least Islam is much less focused on the hocus pocus ghost, spirit, miracle stuff. Their religion is faaar more focused on the practical day to day, mundane stuff. As I have said before, I admire the teachings of Jesus and how he lived a lot. That part of "turn the other cheek" mentality of Christianity I think is far more superior to the "eye-for-an-eye" attitudes of Islam. But considering that most of the religious posts here have been about Christianity, it has ended up being the main focus of what "religion" means (in this thread).

I wouldn't say that. All the religions have their stories of miraculousness. David and Goliath from the Hebrew Bible. Mohammad was said to have defeated a large military force with a tiny army. Lots of similarities of overcoming the odds. Christianity contains miracles which focus on reducing human suffering and celebrate life. Also a lot of what Christianity teaches is the spread of good news. For example, if the media were to report on good news instead of glorifying all the unfortunate events in the world, think how much more positive the world would be. The negativity that permeates society today has a lot to do with the focus on the cult of death and deception by the media and pop culture.

[Siggie]

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I think this (unproductive) back and forth is futile. Everyone will defend their belief instead of trying to understand how someone can not be a believer and what, if any, impact that has on their life.

For instance, I find why people believe to be far more interesting a question than what they believe.

Doesn't seem like you have been following this thread much .. I am not an atheist.

People equate atheist with believing that god doesn't exist and I don't think this is accurate.
The skeptics and scientists that I know (myself included) would be better described as non-theists.