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  • #481
    Re: Religion and Atheism

    Originally posted by Siggie View Post
    Oh yeah... Hitler was a Christian, therefore Christians must also be nazis.
    That's kind of what you're doing... communists were anti-religion, therefore all non-religious persons must be communists. Yay! What a victory for logic.
    Hitler was not Christian and the Nazis worked for the interests of wealthy J3ws. I suggest reading up on the connections between Rockefeller's standard oil and the Nazis.
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • #482
      Re: Religion and Atheism

      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
      Hitler was not Christian and the Nazis worked for the interests of wealthy J3ws. I suggest reading up on the connections between Rockefeller's standard oil and the Nazis.
      That wasn't the point. I said it to illustrate how illogical it is to think like that, not because I think it's true.
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      • #483
        Re: Religion and Atheism

        Originally posted by Siggie View Post
        That's kind of what you're doing... communists were anti-religion, therefore all non-religious persons must be communists. Yay! What a victory for logic.
        No, what I'm doing is showing you the propaganda that the Soviets used to destroy the Orthodox faith. Interesting enough, Russians turned back towards Orthodoxy in 1980 after the fall of the USSR.
        "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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        • #484
          Re: Religion and Atheism

          Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
          No, what I'm doing is showing you the propaganda that the Soviets used to destroy the Orthodox faith. Interesting enough, Russians turned back towards Orthodoxy in 1980 after the fall of the USSR.
          And what does that have to do with discipline?
          [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
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          • #485
            Re: Religion and Atheism

            Originally posted by Siggie View Post
            And what does that have to do with discipline?
            Beats me, you're the one arguing against having discipline since that's what religion promotes. So then you say "but you can have discipline without religion" but again... you're in a contradiction because that's what religion IS.
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • #486
              Re: Religion and Atheism

              Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
              Beats me, you're the one arguing against having discipline since that's what religion promotes. So then you say "but you can have discipline without religion" but again... you're in a contradiction because that's what religion IS.
              Now religion IS discipline?

              Would you really be proud that you only know how to behave because religion imposes rules on you?
              Does it follow that if there weren't a book telling you what to do, what to think, and how to act, we wouldn't otherwise know how?
              [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
              -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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              • #487
                Re: Religion and Atheism

                Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                Now religion IS discipline?

                Would you really be proud that you only know how to behave because religion imposes rules on you?
                Does it follow that if there weren't a book telling you what to do, what to think, and how to act, we wouldn't otherwise know how?
                Religion doesn't impose rules on you, Lawyers impose rules on you. Religion frees you from Lawyers.
                "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                • #488
                  Re: Religion and Atheism

                  Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                  Religion doesn't impose rules on you, Lawyers impose rules on you. Religion frees you from Lawyers.
                  Discipline is an adherence to rules, but there are no rules in religion.

                  Okay, clearly you're not interested in a dialogue since you've begun the famous Kanadian SideStep. Guess this isn't going the way you'd hoped. Got it. Bubye.
                  [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
                  -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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                  • #489
                    Re: Religion and Atheism

                    Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                    Okay, you're not interested in a dialogue, clearly.
                    Discipline is an adherence to rules, but there are no rules in religion. Got it. Bubye.
                    I'm talking about self discipline (imposing rules on yourself, you're your own ruler and don't need lawyers and/or government to rule you). It seems you need to be ruled because you wouldn't know how to rule yourself.
                    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                    • #490
                      Re: Religion and Atheism

                      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                      I'm talking about self discipline (imposing rules on yourself, you're your own ruler and don't need lawyers and/or government to rule you). It seems you need to be ruled because you wouldn't know how to rule yourself.

                      Ah, getting personal again? Must be frustrated.
                      [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
                      -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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