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  • Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

    Originally posted by gegev View Post
    Straight and gay/lesbian are mentally, psychologically and emotionally different creatures and therefore their communication cannot result in sharing ideas; thus it is meaningless. Horse cannot accept donkey manners and/or ideas, regardless how clever the opponent's points are.
    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    K, I'm done with this one... Next feminist please.
    Any impressions at the end?
    As a former teacher I claim that children are most most vulnerable/affected by the adverse situation they are in, and to the propaganda they face frequently. But it almost never affects the adult.
    Last edited by gegev; 05-18-2012, 03:40 AM.

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    • Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

      Originally posted by Flamenkita View Post
      So, reading this last post of yours, what I'm getting is that education is useless, that you are deeply resentful of Armenian women (someone must have screwed you over real good), and that books and art are a waste of time and energy, unless they are car manuals. Charming!
      I didn't say education is useless... unless the profession requires a degree (engineering, nursing, computer science, doctor, dentist, etc.) then education is just a pass time (like baseball). If you are self motivated, you can read literature and study arts on your own instead of following a curriculum that someone has set out for you.

      I've only dated 3 Armenian women. One of them made it to the second date. The pursuing doctor had no time, the engineer was immature and wasn't finished partying (she was 26) and the singer/song writer made it clear she didn't want a serious relationship (wanted to rule the world and didn't want anyone to hold her back). I'm guessing they'll grow old with cats or marry for companionship.

      Let's assume that instead of attending school to earn a degree that produces no job, you were a waitress and you took it upon yourself to learn or even took night classes. Wouldn't you have been in a better position to provide for your offspring?

      Btw, I'm not belittling your decisions in life. I'm just pointing out how I see life unfold in the "wild, wild, west".
      Last edited by KanadaHye; 05-18-2012, 06:00 AM.
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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      • Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

        Originally posted by Flamenkita View Post
        Also, both my kids are identified as gifted learners and already that sets them apart from others in many ways. Children who are gifted have some real challenges growing up, and that is why I have decided to be home with them during their formative years. It's not easy to connect with other 6 year olds when your conversation openers have to do with the periodic table and Greek mythology.
        This part made me laugh... I'm a firm believer that kids should first get lots of scrapes on their knees and elbows before they learn worldly knowledge.
        "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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        • Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

          Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
          This part made me laugh... I'm a firm believer that kids should first get lots of scrapes on their knees and elbows before they learn worldly knowledge.
          Why would you assume that there's no time to play? Is it not possible to find time to both play and learn? She said their conversation openers; she didn't say they prefer to spend recess conversing (or "conversating" if you're hood or didn't take any liberal arts ) about chemistry and greek mythology.

          Don't you too enjoy talking about the Greeks?

          Seriously though... Have you not heard enough from Flam to think she'd be ensuring that they are growing up to be well-rounded individuals?
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          • Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

            Originally posted by Siggie View Post
            Why would you assume that there's no time to play? Is it not possible to find time to both play and learn? She said their conversation openers; she didn't say they prefer to spend recess conversing (or "conversating" if you're hood or didn't take any liberal arts ) about chemistry and greek mythology.

            Don't you too enjoy talking about the Greeks?

            Seriously though... Have you not heard enough from Flam to think she'd be ensuring that they are growing up to be well-rounded individuals?
            For some reason, I imagine her son being like the boy from "The Switch". Another feminist movie... <sigh>
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

              Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
              This part made me laugh... I'm a firm believer that kids should first get lots of scrapes on their knees and elbows before they learn worldly knowledge.
              OMG, there are scrapes and cuts galore over here. There are lots of trees to climb on our property, a stream wide and deep enough to wade and splash in and catch all manner of water animals using nets. We have several pets, a dog, two cats, a toad, and several other critters that they are caring for in jars with perforated lids. We have raised ducks in the past, and we grow some vegetables and flowers.

              If you're implying that my kids are nerdy, that is hardly the case. They are very friendly and funny, but in ways that adults "get" more readily than other kids. But they are also very sensitive (as are most really smart kids), and sometimes easily overwhelmed. They can hang with other kids their age, but some of their tastes and interests are quirky. At age 3, my son was going around humming Coltrane's "A Love Supreme", and belting out the famous clown's aria from I Pagliachi. My daughter spends a lot of time drawing and writing short stories. She is also very into musical theater and may, some day, be a "triple threat", as they say in show-biz (sing, dance, act). I am most proud of them for being kind and compassionate toward other people and all creatures in the world.

              I can tell you one thing for sure. Regardless of my strong Feminist leanings, there is nothing I would do to deprive my kids of what they need to be happy, productive members of society. There is nothing I wouldn't sacrifice for their well-being. And because I've lived a full and happy life so far, including a very wild youth, I am perfectly happy to be their mother. To me and my husband, they come first. All we do we do for them.

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              • Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                For some reason, I imagine her son being like the boy from "The Switch". Another feminist movie... <sigh>
                He does kind of look like the boy in the movie, only much cuter with big, brown eyes and eyelashes so long he could trip over them! I'm just a little bit smitten with my son. Can you tell?

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                • Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

                  No, I'm pretty much done, unless anyone feels there's anything more to add. I don't think there will ever be a meeting of the minds so no point in beating a dead horse is there?

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                  • Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

                    Fascinating read.

                    Just wanted to ask what the policy usually is when a thread derails from its original topic. Does it get closed off and a new thread get started? Is it allowed to run on until it dies out? And what prompts a thread to get locked?

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                    • Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

                      It is almost impossible to enforce "sticking to a topic" in a thread like this since the basic disagreement is always the same. Those who adhere to stigma, dogma, "the ways things have been and therefore should be", and generally the rule-driven folks. On the other hand you get the logical free thinkers that like to analyze things case by case and make a decision on what they "believe" based on what is relevant now and how things should be for the better.

                      The rest just happens to change by the day and the hour ... abortion, women's rights, religion, global warming, traditions, social policies, etc etc etc.

                      The big exception on Armenian forums is of course the Genocide as you often tend to get the Turkish propagandist whose only goal is to spread lies so those are treated much more strictly. There, the facts are facts and undisputed so it makes it easy to keep the subjects in check. The other groups that also tend to show up with a specific agenda is the those fixated on the jews and since their preaching almost always ends up being the form of just spamming propaganda, there is usually also less tolerance for those "discussions". But the rest, as long as the discussion is civil and not purely personal attacks and insults (like YouTube comments), it is usually left to run its course (if you close a thread prematurely, 14 other will open up).
                      this post = teh win.

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