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  • #51
    Originally posted by SagGal
    I absolutely hate fathers who say, "I'm the father and a husband, therefore I am a provider, so I bring a paycheck and my wife, the mother of my children takes care of the kids." If you honestly love your child, you'd never say that because you would want to be in your child's life more than ever. You will worry your head off about your child. What they're thinking, doing, going through, and etc. I know that a lot of young men right now are saying, "My wife will look after the kids because she is the mother." BS! You don't know any of this until you become a parent.
    Thanks: you're pretty much hitting the target.
    All i know that a child needs both parents(my personal experience).There is no major or minor role in parenting.


    Ps: I made a mistake in my previous post. Instead of phsicology should be psychology .(i spelt it in Russian)
    I'm a monstrous mass of vile, foul & corrupted matter.

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    • #52
      i agree with all of this but you (saggal) should think about waht you said... you said men are just not as emotional as women... but isnt that a learned condition? men are emotional too but they are not allowed to cry beacuse "boys dont cry" remember...

      and you also said "if the child (especially a boy) sees that a father is the dominant one in the family, the boy will think that it is fine to talk back to his mom and as the boy grows in a houshold where the mother is the powerless one, he will not be as close to his mom as he would be to his dad." well he will also feel that his own wife should be this way...
      and if you dont disagree with that statement, well that means that most of our families have a dominant father, because most of the young Armenian men feel this EXACT way...

      they say they will be just like this when they grow up when they are fathers and husbands, and i will quote you again ""I'm the father and a husband, therefore I am a provider, so I bring a paycheck and my wife, the mother of my children takes care of the kids.""

      equality in this forum has a different meaning then in the rest of the world... but not to me... because the word equal is not saying that someone is different, it is only suggesting that people must treat each other the same way they would like to be treated, and that makes it all equal... i know that no two people are alike, but that does not mean that they are not equal entities of our society...

      my mom always says, God has not created people the same, he (i think IT) has given someone more intelligence then the other person, more beauty then the other person... etc... etc... but that does not mean that we should enslave the unintelligent, or ugly, or stupid, or weak, or sick... and that my dear forum freaks is EQUALITY... treating people in a manner which is humane...

      and i know i mentioned my little brother, but that does not mean that you should take advantage and use his presence in a derogatory manner... and thats the reason why i said, don't ever mention my little brother...

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      • #53
        Originally posted by nunechka
        i agree with all of this but you (saggal) should think about waht you said... you said men are just not as emotional as women... but isnt that a learned condition? men are emotional too but they are not allowed to cry beacuse "boys dont cry" remember...

        and you also said "if the child (especially a boy) sees that a father is the dominant one in the family, the boy will think that it is fine to talk back to his mom and as the boy grows in a houshold where the mother is the powerless one, he will not be as close to his mom as he would be to his dad." well he will also feel that his own wife should be this way...
        and if you dont disagree with that statement, well that means that most of our families have a dominant father, because most of the young Armenian men feel this EXACT way...

        they say they will be just like this when they grow up when they are fathers and husbands, and i will quote you again ""I'm the father and a husband, therefore I am a provider, so I bring a paycheck and my wife, the mother of my children takes care of the kids.""

        equality in this forum has a different meaning then in the rest of the world... but not to me... because the word equal is not saying that someone is different, it is only suggesting that people must treat each other the same way they would like to be treated, and that makes it all equal... i know that no two people are alike, but that does not mean that they are not equal entities of our society...

        my mom always says, God has not created people the same, he (i think IT) has given someone more intelligence then the other person, more beauty then the other person... etc... etc... but that does not mean that we should enslave the unintelligent, or ugly, or stupid, or weak, or sick... and that my dear forum freaks is EQUALITY... treating people in a manner which is humane...

        and i know i mentioned my little brother, but that does not mean that you should take advantage and use his presence in a derogatory manner... and thats the reason why i said, don't ever mention my little brother...
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #54
          How on Earth did communism get in this thread? Oh my...
          Originally posted by nunechka
          i agree with all of this but you (saggal) should think about waht you said... you said men are just not as emotional as women... but isnt that a learned condition? men are emotional too but they are not allowed to cry beacuse "boys dont cry" remember...
          I don't think that they are not "allowed" to cry. I know that some men just fall under the pressure of "Men are sissies if they cry", which is sad. However, some don't fall under the pressure, but that tears just don't come easily to them as tears come to women.

          Originally posted by nunechka
          ...and you also said "if the child (especially a boy) sees that a father is the dominant one in the family, the boy will think that it is fine to talk back to his mom and as the boy grows in a houshold where the mother is the powerless one, he will not be as close to his mom as he would be to his dad." well he will also feel that his own wife should be this way...
          and if you dont disagree with that statement, well that means that most of our families have a dominant father, because most of the young Armenian men feel this EXACT way...

          they say they will be just like this when they grow up when they are fathers and husbands, and i will quote you again ""I'm the father and a husband, therefore I am a provider, so I bring a paycheck and my wife, the mother of my children takes care of the kids.""
          Yes.
          Last edited by SagGal; 09-02-2004, 03:45 PM.
          I see...

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Anonymouse
            After reading this thread, I want to become a father.
            Im sure you know how to do this, but if you dont, i guess you should ask a few friends.. and i dont know if anyone has let you in on this secret, but it feels good while your "becoming" a father haha.. uhumm.. excuse me.
            How do you hurt a masochist?
            -By leaving him alone.Forever.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by SagGal
              How on Earth did communism get in this thread? Oh my...

              I don't think that they are not "allowed" to cry. I know that some men just fall under the pressure of "Men are sissies if they cry", which is sad. However, some don't fall under the pressure, but that tears just don't come easily to them as tears come to women.

              Yes.
              She is write, i beleive a man can experiance all the emotions women do, yet not cry.. or atleast not as easily. For example me, i cant remember when the last time was that i cried, perhaps becuase i havent, since i was like 10 or something and my parents spanked me.... but does that mean i dont get emotional?.... i just dont like to cry about it
              How do you hurt a masochist?
              -By leaving him alone.Forever.

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